Here’s an interesting little gadget for dealing with those pesky chips…
The TagZapper™ is being developed to be a light weight, handheld, device for deactivating RFID transmitting devices. This is intended to fulfill consumer demand for a means to protect their privacy. A consumer purchases a six-pack of beer at a convenience store. After exiting the store the consumer uses her TagZapper™ to disable the RFID tags. At this point the consumer is able to transport and consume her purchase without being monitored by any commercial or government agency.
Go see the web site.
The obvious questions come to mind:
*Could a thief use this handy-dandy little device (which may soon be sold on late night TV) to disable the chip in a horse, cow or any livestock, even a chipped pet dog or cat, then insert a new one or none at all ? Where then is the protection offered us by NAIS?
Oh, nevermind, NAIS will probably make a regulation that all non-chipped stock be confiscated.
But could this device can also be used by shoplifters to disable chips on items in the store?
Comment SUSAN — July 22, 2006 @ 6:02 am
Sounds like a great idea, but by the time the zapper will be developed, all our purchases will be linked to our own ID anyway. The word PRIVACY might as well be deleted from the dictionary.
Comment Angelika Niessen — July 22, 2006 @ 6:23 am
Funny.
“deactivating” RFID.
Read Katherin Albrecht’s report on a device like this in Germany’s Metro Future store report.
Spychips.com go to: Metro Future Store special report
The store pretended to deactivate the product but when Katherine and was testing the deactivation during lecture on RFID it was discovered that it was still active. (She had a reader) The biggest shock came when they found hidden RFID tracking devices in the store’s savings card.(like our Kroger card here)
Watch out. This is tricky business.
Cindy in Arkansas
Comment Cindy — July 22, 2006 @ 7:54 am
The Tagzapper will be out on the market about the time RFID takes over the bar code.
You need to keep an eyes open for that time. Think about it. 90% of consumers do not even know this will take place. When they find out there will be a short time to panic then they will go along with it.
All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
– Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
James ( ZombieWire )
Comment James — July 22, 2006 @ 8:06 am
Presumably, from everything I’ve read, frying a tag is just that–frying the thing. Disabling it in some physical way so it no longer works properly. These chips must get hot, or break, or fly apart, or scorch.
What then would be the pain level of a hospital ward of chipped patients as the chips imbeded in them are euthanized? Or indeed, a Frat Boy Hazing Prank–walk into the shopping center and Zap people. . . .
And lastly, Won’t the Zapper have to have an RFID to be sold at WalMart? Whose Zapper Zaps the Zapper? Will there be litigation around these things as people wanting to disable their beer tags suddenly zap themselves, having just come out of the hospital?
I don’t think you could make this stuff up–it’s just too crazy.
In the New Conservative Dictionary of the Authoritarian Word–expurgaited edition–the word “Privacy” will truly be missing. Under “Zapper”, read, “A device which never entered production, intended to disable RFID tracking Tags. The FBI & NSA jointly deemed it in the best interest of Humanity to forbid the manufacturing of this tool. . . .”
Comment Podchef — July 22, 2006 @ 8:14 am
With people being forced into National ID cards that bear personal and medical information on RFID chips in 2008 (this is worldwide, the British are just finding out)Animal ID, clothing ID, and all else may well become a moot point. Big Brother is coming to our neighborhoods and very, very soon. This whole RFID thing is smelling very bad and we had all better take a stand against it at every level or we will soon be nothing but government property, just like our “national herd”.
Hopefully, defeating NAIS will give us a platform from which to resist chipping us!
Comment Patricia Hampton — July 22, 2006 @ 8:54 am
Tagzapper lead me to an interesting web site:
http://www.zombiewire.com/
-WJ
Comment walterj — July 22, 2006 @ 9:17 am
Moral!! Don’t buy beer or any other intoxicants. I find that extremely easy. Don’t want stores keeping track of your purchases. Simple go to stores who don’t have those
d–n cards. OR, just buy the best sales items and nothing else. Maybe, someday, the stores will get the idea and stop those d–n cards.
[This works if you have choice. We go shopping about four times a year. We buy staples: sugar, flour, oat meal, cocoa, salt, baking powder, baking soda, olive oil, ice cream, etc. (Ice cream is a basic food according to my wife…) Within an hour’s drive there are not very many places to go that we can shop and all of them do those shopper cards. I do the card because it is dumb for me to not. If I refused to do the card then I would pay an additional $70 or so per shopping trip or about $250 extra per year - that is about 10% of our food budget. It is that way because they set it up so that if you don’t do the card you pay an extra tithe. The one thing I know is they aren’t getting much information or control from me since I don’t buy the preprocessed foods and such which are where they make the most markups. We buy basically the same thing every time. All their little gimmicks have very little effect on us. But it would be foolish for me to throw away that $250 dollars a year. So how is that different from NAIS? With NAIS the government is forcing us to do it. It would be like Shaws forcing me to buy highly processed foods. I at-least still have that choice… :) -WJ]
Comment della — July 22, 2006 @ 9:41 am
The founding of a Survivalist, Patriot, Ectopian world does not sound so far-fetched today as it did in the 80’s.
Comment Podchef — July 22, 2006 @ 9:53 am
On the d-n Cards. They don’t check your ID when you sign up for you Kroger/Albertsons/whomever card. I have them under false names like Holden McGroin and I.P. Freely. I make up an address and phone number.
The checkers smile and the data isn’t linked to me as long as I pay cash.
Comment Maven — July 22, 2006 @ 10:30 am
Walter how is it you do shoping only so few times each year? from yor other blog I know you have three kids plus you and holly. shurly you must have to shop more ofte n than that!!!!
[We mostly buy basics at the store and it is a whole family affair with three or four carts typically. We grow almost all our own meat, veggies, a lot of our fruit, etc so that cuts down greatly on the amount of stuff we buy. We do tend to wow the checkout clerks - they ask if we are shopping for an entire camp or something. :) We do also get milk twice a week down at the local general store in the valley. They don’t use RFID or customer member cards. :) -WJ]
Comment PV — July 22, 2006 @ 10:34 am
I would imagine that in a “New World Order” to possess a device that damages or disables a tag/chip would be a serious “crime” If you were to be scanned and the tag didn’t read there would probably be a major incident take place,you know, slammed up against the wall,roughed up ,locked up interogated as to why your govt issued chip isn’t active ect.Chips could even be made to issue an S.O.S as they died to notify headquarters that chip #12345654321 belonging to “ME” has been criminally deactivated,whats to keep them from passing a law that says to the effect that,”If you are in possession of an item that the tag/chip has been killed that the item is considered stolen or contraband even though you paid for it,the info connecting it to you back to the store can’t be proven and of course,the chip/ tag was “your reciept”and the govt/corp could also retain “ownership” of the tag/chip and make it illegal to tamper with it,I mean the NAIS regs.have a part included in the language that says something to the effect that it will be illegal to tamper with or remove a tag ect.I’m not saying this to be a “conspiracy theorist” but in light of some of whats going on ,almost anything is now possible,but I do not subscribe to the idea that they are gods and therefore unstoppable,an old saying is that the bigger they are the harder they fall,and as they try to encompass every aspect of life they have more chinks in their armor,so to speak,and we can all keep at them to cause them trouble and stop them at every turn,we have let the fox takeover the henhouse slowly over the years,now he appears to be a huge viscious wolf, he won’t scare off easily, but we can kick his tail up between his shoulder blades,so lets keep at it,”Eternal Vigilence”
[In Australia they are having a high rate of tag failures with their NAIS style program for cattle. I have heard that the rate of tag failures is exceeding 30%. I have wondered what would happen to a RFID tag when an animal hits an electric fence, has a near by lightning strike, etc. Perhaps this is part of the explination. I also know a gentleman who was hit by lightning and now can not wear watches or use many electronic devices because they go haywire when he touches them. I imagine that attempting to tag him might destroy the chip. An interesting question. I’ll ask him if he wants to be a guinea pig… -WJ]
Comment LEE — July 22, 2006 @ 10:55 am
Why are we even discussing this thing?
A law which results in the manufacture of a gadget designed to defeat it is a lousy law by definition.
Once the chips are established, whether ‘voluntarily’ or by mandate (and it looks rather like the term ‘voluntary’ here has been redefined), zappers will either be outlawed or in some way be rendered ineffective - codes and frequencies can be changed - so the answer here is to reject the whole project.
Like Walter, I too, resent grocery tracking cards, but use them from time to time, when I occasionally shop somewhere other than my usual grocery - which is employee owned and has no ‘discount cards’.
What a concept. Now if they could just be persuaded to use the local packing plants, instead of Tyson, Hormel and the other corporate hogs, I would be nearly satisfied.
I get around this by buying as much locally produced and free range meat as my budget will afford. Too bad the local natural food store *doesn’t* have such discount cards .. lol!
But if NAIS goes in, there will be no practical way to circumvent this tracking.
We have to get it thrown out.
Comment Lynn — July 22, 2006 @ 11:43 am
Cindy sent me this interesting article about store RFID tags not being destroyed when the deactivator business claimed they would be deactivated. Note that this is not the Tagzapper but something from the store. Interesting reading.
Comment walterj — July 22, 2006 @ 11:57 am
Looks to me like proof positive that the commitment is to tagging, and that it will be rammed down our throats regardless of objections any way the PTB can do it.
And a further thought on the zapper - since it is proposed as a ‘protection of consumer privacy’ by the manufacturer of RFID chips themselves, I think we can safely ridicule it.
The best protection of consumer privacy is clearly to reject the chips.
Comment Lynn — July 22, 2006 @ 12:12 pm
Lynn, in the case of the Tagzapper I suspect it is for real rather than some flim-flam like the Kiosk. The Tagzapper is coming from a 3rd party inventor, not the RFID industry. Go visit his site. He has some interesting links and articles. You can of course test it and I would do so if I got my hands on one. You might remember my article Fry Your Own RFID Tags. While my method works, hopefully this Tagzapper is an effective and safer way to play the game. Cheers, -WalterJ
Comment walterj — July 22, 2006 @ 12:49 pm
NAIS could be the thing that saves
us in the end
by making us wiser
just stop buying stuff
make your own beer and wine
share cows with neighbors
eat weeds
lose weight
get tough
count your blessings
help each other
in other words everything that
the government doesn’t want us
to do
we’d be happier in the long run
this culture has jaded us all to
the point of forgetting god or
whatever lifts us above this
petty world..if these ARE the end
times..lets go out gracefully..
save your seeds…
Comment sid sargent — July 22, 2006 @ 3:28 pm
I read a news release by the NIAA (the powergrubbing idiots who gave us NAIS),pertaining to the great “leader” Sec. Johanns upcoming trip to Kazakhstan on behalf of some US AgriBiz interests to talk to( bully) that country into accepting more of our “agriculture produce” as I understand ,that part of the world is sorta dangerous,maybe we’ll get lucky and they’ll “KEEP” him,he is so full of “bull” that they could fertilize the whole country with him, although that may fall under the heading of toxic waste:) I hope that country will tell him and his bunch where to go!
Comment LEE — July 22, 2006 @ 7:33 pm
Walter: I am truly sorry that you have chosen to publish this article (over the weekend) instead of a plea for readers to contact their federal reps as I previously suggested. There is still time to contact our federal reps and demand that electronic farm id be eliminated from the 2007 Farm Bill. To contact their state reps and demand that premise id NOT be used within their states until it has been mandated by the USDA.
But, knowing that to be the best way to stop the NAIS, you insist upon using your fine national forum to tell people “how to avoid participating in the NAIS” by disabling chips rather than “how to fight the NAIS” through the many legal avenues which we still have available. (see above).
I sometimes wonder what you are all about Walter! Why aren’t you asking your readers to contact their federal reps on the house and senate ag committees? Why are you not urging your readers to contact their federal reps to keep electronic animal id off the 2007 Farm Bill?
Why aren’t you using this amazing forum to advise readers how to do something “meaningful” about stopping the NAIS?
In short, why are you wasting my time????
[Articles are often scheduled to go out automatically. I write many of them well in advanced. This week we have been doing critical farm stuff and then went to my parents for my father’s birthday. I just got back. Unfortunately the government does not work on our schedule - The summer is a very busy time on the farm so I can not devote myself to writing articles on NoNAIS.org 100% of the time. My wife feels I spend too much time on this as it is. As always, feel free to leave comments of things that you think are important as a way of getting the word out to other readers. There are of course the discussion lists as well - another great way to get the word out. See them in the right hand sidebar. Cheers, -WJ]
Comment Neil W. — July 23, 2006 @ 4:36 pm
We live in a culture where the promised “instant fix” and the promised “instant gratification” are King, and expected in 5 minutes.
We begin to think that everything we want should come to us immediately (like in 5 minutes), if not sooner, to include the Battles we Fight, for Right and Liberty, to retain our Freedoms.
And if what we desire doesn’t show up in “five (5) minutes”,
we think we are on the wrong track, and we turn away
and say it’s time to do something else.
The National Animal Identification System (NAIS)
appears to be “included” in the above issues.
Creating what you truly desire (the Stoppage of NAIS) is work.
The wonderful thing is, there are payoffs all the way along the line, right from the beginning.
You feel better.
You feel more alive.
You are more centered.
You are experiencing awakenings on many levels.
And you are taking destiny into your own hands.
You are Fighting for “FREEDOM.”
Isn’t taking destiny into your own hands what is so enchanting about TV shows and movies, like in Brave heart, by Mel Gibson!
The hero steps up to the plate.
The hero sizes up the situation and makes his moves.
He overcomes odds.
He finds clever strategies.
He’s at the helm of a crisis and he resolves it.
He wins, even if it looks like he loses.
He shapes the future,
for “FREEDOM.”
Only it isn’t TV or the movies. IT’S REAL.
NAIS is REAL.
So must be Your FIGHT for
“FREEDOM.”
And it is going to take longer than 5 minutes.
Dean Ayers
Glenwood, Iowa 51534-6218
DeanAFOSI@aol.com
IOWANS AGAINST NAIS
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Iowans_Against_NAIS/
Comment DeanAFOSI (IOWA) — July 23, 2006 @ 6:14 pm
Neil take your meds.
Comment Art — July 23, 2006 @ 6:48 pm
WOW Mr NEIL W!!!! You are SOOOO out of line!!!! First this is Walters web site and not yours. What ghave you done to fight NAIS?!?!?!?!????! Walter has done a LOT!!!!! Without him I wouldnt know about it. I BET it is the same for a lot of people. Maybe 100000 of people! Walter isnt wasting your time. You are wasting his time and my time with your dumb nasty comments!!!!! YOU need to get real and realize that Walter has a life behond doing noNAIS! WHAT is YOUR problem?!?!?!?!!!
LASTLY Walter urges us to write our repz and the papers and more all the time. He is always saying write write write. I try to do it but cant every time. Do you???????!
YOU owe Walter an appology!
Comment PV — July 23, 2006 @ 7:10 pm
Not horribly out of line, this just goes to show how everybody here who agrees that NAIS is bad want to go about stopping it in different ways.
As it is, letters are fine, but if that doesnt work then other means will need to be used. Now is as good a time as any to prepare for all outcomes.
Comment Jolly Sapper — July 23, 2006 @ 8:11 pm
neil i agree with pv and dean and art. youre out of line. if you have something you want posted about then you can easily leave a comment or send walter a tip but you cant expect walter to do everything. you need to back off and relax a little because this is a long term fight and what is going on in the senate right now is not all that significant unless you know something we dont know in which case please spill the beans. as i see it the house asked the gao to do a study on nais and put limits on the usda not being able to access the money unless they were more clear about things. so like art said take your meds apologize to walter and pray do tell us what you think is going on in the senate that walter should be reporting about here. i went over to the senate.gov pages and couldn’t find anything happening in paticular other than what walter has reported about many times bfore. so what is up?
im not sure what you had against this article. i liked reading about the tagzapper. it is good to know ther are ways of fighting back against this whole chipping stuff. when a government becomes totalitaran then it is important that people fight back and resist.
walter i am curious as to what your big project is? the usual on the farm stuff or more?
Comment anna — July 24, 2006 @ 4:58 am
Thanks for this really interesting tidbit Walter! You have mentioned about building RFID chip zappers before but actually building one is out of my league so I appreciate knowing about a unit I can buy. I hope it comes out reasonably priced. I just saw this article
link
which seems related.
Comment Mark — July 24, 2006 @ 5:04 am
Walter I want to say how much I appreciate all the things that you do on this web site. You have put a lot of hard work into fighting N.A.I.S. Please don’t listen to naysayers.
Comment HorseLady — July 24, 2006 @ 10:15 am
Hmmmmm, where to start? I can understand the frustration with the pace and the overall sense sometimes of things pertaining to this NAIS.Any of us who have been fighting, planning,working to stop this monster certainly have felt upset and angry at times about the whole thing,BUT Walter is not a part of the problem,and for 99.999% of folks on this forum that is a given.Running this forum AND running his farm as well as finding time for his wife and family is amazing,I personaly eat ,sleep and dream this NAIS bullcrap and I’m sure others out there know what I’m saying,farm projects get put on a back burner,family time gets shorted,animal emergencys always come up,someone always is asking something about NAIS,and on and on!Walter I’m sure has a life,and does’nt always enjoy having to work on this stuff all the time ,especially during what little “free” time he “may” have,and then to have to be hasseled about something he did or did’nt do, I am amazed he can do it all,and don’t forget folks his Wife and family put alot into this too!! WALTER,(for myself and on behalf of all of the NONAIS family) I just want to say THANK YOU and your family for doing this,ALL this,making available a place with so much imformation,where folks can learn and teach each other about this NAIS,A place where we can all come together whether we agree or not,and at times we do not all see eye to eye,but we can enjoy “freedom of the press and of opinion and work together to see this NAIS dead and buried,again thanks Walt!
Comment LEE — July 24, 2006 @ 10:30 am
Tag Zappers, if actually effective, are a great idea, but the truth of the matter is how would that really help livestock owners? Supposing we all just keep laying around and doing nothing other than what the average antiNAISer is doing- writing a few letters, emails here and there, and the NAIS takes hold. We’ve all got our animals chipped!! We all paid about $65 per horse, about $20 per chicken- these fees include veterinary charges of insertion, etc.. Then we all buy our $375 “mandatory on Premises” scanners required for the $17 per hour annual chip check! What are you going to do- zap a chip or tag that you will be fined for if it is found to be tampered with, then immediately be required to have the vet insert ANOTHER chip for $65 each?? I think not! If I’m utterly stupid enough to let the NAIS take hold in the first place, I sure as heck am not going to be stupid enough to zap a chip I’ll just have to have re-done at the annul chip check anyway.
I have been protesting the NAIS since February, and the protest turnouts were miserably meager in numbers, often just me, or me and one other person. Those of you, like #19, ought to really put your sign where your type is- if you’re going to throw stones, you darn well ought to be out holding a big sign, making a BIG stink and posting ads for anti NAIS rallies,…. or button up! The best thing we can all do at this point is go see the documentary “America….From Freedom to Facism” Tell everyone you know!! That film will be a turning point in our country and it starts nationwide on July 28th. Go to this website for more info:
www.FreedomToFacism.com or got to We The People Foundation’s website to read more abou it also at www.GiveMeLiberty.org This film talks about RFID and National ID requirements. If you let enough people know, this film could seriously start to provide hope to getting rid of the NAIS threat. I saw a special previewing of this documentary in March and its the best thing I think I’ve seen or read in about 15 years!! Its a real jawdropper of a documentary on our current govt.
In the meantime, read this article that is a historical account of previous NAIS type systems in the history of the world, and what their horrific outcomes were. This idea of NAIS was taken from other governmental systems of the world and is vERY interesting to find out
Comment Rene — July 24, 2006 @ 1:08 pm
Walter;
First of all, thank you for what you are doing. This thing has been so much “under the radar” that I wouldn’t have noticed it if you hadn’t started warning people. Which means I never would have paid attention to the following article.
Read it. Note the part about IBM and the patent they hold. Then get ahold of a copy of IBM And The Holocaust, by Edwin Black. Yes, I know it is long. Read it. It *does* bear on this problem; it is the most illuminating, shocking book I have ever read.
In case you are still doubtful, I will tell you this much; that book proves Nazi Germany was the first “information age” government. That is the explanation for the numbers tatooed on concentration camp inmates. That is the explanation for their efficiency in rounding up the Jews. Now imagine the Nazis with RFID. Think about the implications when all of these pieces get put together. Then, tell me if you think I’m crazy when I say I think RFID technology ought to be outlawed completely - or if you think I’m crazy when I say I don’t care if I can afford one, when that TagZapper hits the market, I’m buying one asap.
You have my permission to quote all or any part of this e-mail you see fit on your web page. This is a no holds barred fight! It is not just farmers fighting for survival, it is *all of us* fighting for survival and freedom. And, really, anyone concerned about this should read the book; it is revealing - even if it does make scarier reading than any Steven King novel.
God Help Us All,
Ray Beere Johnson II
[Very interesting article and worth reading. I have read a summary of Black’s work but not the whole thing. The IBM connection is a bit stomach turning. So goes some of our biggest corporations… -WJ]
Comment Ray Beere Johnson II — July 24, 2006 @ 3:17 pm
Chill Neil.
Walter does an anicreadible job.
If you have something to add,
do so and tell us all about it.
Dont barate Walter.
Help him.
Comment Angie Short — July 24, 2006 @ 3:20 pm
Ray,
I posted the article on Americans Against NAIS. Thanks for link.
Reading about the Illuminati is pretty scary too. Anybody else seen the Denver Airport video?
First time I heard about a dog getting chipped (1999?),I instantly had a sick feeling in my gut….
Walter,
I appreciate you, too!
Comment Carolyn — July 24, 2006 @ 3:54 pm
Did I screw up? Why would the Illuminati be down on the United Nations? Maybe it’s a fake group. NOT the ones who designed the Denver Airport.
Sorry!
Comment Carolyn — July 24, 2006 @ 4:01 pm
As someone who is probably on a watch list for harrassing my State Rep–also our states Ag dude–I welcomed this article. Everyone is right–Walter does an AWESOME job sharing with us a tremendous amount of vital informaiton.
We can’t fight NAIS 100% of the time–it’s too all encompassing. It’s also so awful for us farmers/livestock/pet owners to think about that we need other, scarier stuff to jolt us out of our USDA induced Stupor.
As I see it, RFID, Zappers, NAIS, the Amero, Gated Communities are all part of the same thing. Control. The more we realize this, the more we can do about it. NAIS is just the tip of the iceberg.
Now I am sure there is more we can do to fight NAIS. I am sure there is more I personally could do. I have written, phoned, and faxed Senators, Reps, and spoken to people I know in power who know these people. I have written radio, and TV news people who aren’t afraid to speak out–to no avail. Perhaps it is time to do all of these things again. But really, how many letters, phone calls, faxes can come from the same person before they tune you out?
I have podcast about this issue–for which I lost listeners and was told I was getting too political. I am sure we are all getting the message out there to as many people as possible in whatever way we can.
Neil W is right about the need to reemphisize contacting those in power and showing that the majority of people in this country do, should and will oppose the NAIS. (Hell, I even boycott products from the companies in the NIAA). In the past Neil has shown great passion and wisdom in his exhanges with this forum. I expect his passion over-ruled his wisdom in this instance. We should not forget tagging is tagging and opposing tagging in whatever way are the end goals of this movement. By including this article on the Zapper, Walter has no doubt broadened the discussion and pulled people to this site who never would have thought to visit. BRAVO! May they go away with some food for thought.
Comment Podchef — July 24, 2006 @ 5:12 pm
Comment to all…with special notice for PV and Anna…
I will not apologize. The emphasis for the anti-NAIS movement should be on “how to stop” the program, not “how to circumvent” the program once it has been implemented. (If that day ever comes).
Yes…this is most clearly and most certainly Walter’s web site. I have often complimented Walter for his technical expertise and his hard work in making it available.
The urgent need for people to contact their federal reps is upon us NOW because the 2007 Farm Bill is being written NOW!
As for all the people who claim to have written to their federal reps repeatedly; I will offer again the words that were told to me personally by Congressman Tim Holden of PA (member House Ag Committee). The Congressman stated, “I have polled many other members of the committee (House Ag) and they have told me that they have had very little correspondence re: public opposition to the NAIS”. This included telephone calls.
This blog boasts having over 100,000 unique visitors. If even 10 per cent of those visitors would write to their federal reps (or make phone calls), that would be 10,000 opinions that should have been expressed. Sorry folks, the numbers simply aren’t there.
Let’s put it to the test…let’s see if even 5,000 people will write or call their US congressman congresswoman or Senator(s) this week about the NAIS. I’ll settle for 1,000. It doesn’t matter if you’ve called or written to them in the past…call AGAIN. Write AGAIN. Make yourself a pain in the butt like I have done with my reps!
This is truly an amazing forum that Walter has single handedly created. All I’m suggesting is that the forum is not being directed toward its full potential as the “most powerful tool in the toolbox” re: the opposition to the NAIS.
And yes, this is going to be a long battle. It will not be won or lost overnight or in five minutes. However, the 2007 Farm Bill will be completed at some point and then it will be written into law. If we could achieve a minor victory by having electronic animal id excluded from that bill because of public pressure put upon the major players, then we should not waste the chance to ask for help.
ps…I’ll “take” or “not take” my meds as I please. They are my meds and they are my business. (insert smiley face here). :)
Comment Neil W. — July 26, 2006 @ 9:36 am
OK, Neil W. The first letters you had better write, are to, the IOWA, Kings(Congressmen);
of Big “Factory-Farm”
Agri-Biz. Iowa’s Congressmen who each are “millionaires” in their own right, from most likely Agri-Biz..
and they think “nothing” of receiving your important letters that are going to change the world overnight. They are heavily reimbursed by Lobbyist’s of Agri-Biz.
Let’s see you impact that “Brick Wall” mister, if you are so “on target.”
Dean Ayers
Glenwood, Iowa 51534-6218
DeanAFOSI@aol.com
IOWANS AGAINST NAIS
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Iowans_Against_NAIS/
Comment DeanAFOSI (IOWA) — July 26, 2006 @ 6:45 pm
Neil you are digging yourself a hole. I watched you do this before and amazingly Walter keeps extending a hand to you in friendship. Get a grip.
Comment David H. — July 26, 2006 @ 7:32 pm
Come on, let’s start all over. We’re probably all guilty of upsetting somebody on this forum. I’m sure I have. I spent time yesterday looking on this website for that list of senate ag committee members, with no success. If someone will refer us to that list again, I promise to make the calls today. I call D.C. lots of times, and get frustrated, but the show must go on.
Comment Texas Goat Gal — July 27, 2006 @ 8:18 am
This Just In: WTO talks Breakdown and the 2007 Ag bill probably won’t be changed till at least 2009 or 10.
Relax. The idiots in our government are doing as much to screw themselves as they are to us. If the WTO talks fail then there is really no need to ram through the NAIS. The funding and incentive are all of the sudden missing. The USDA’s position has just become a whole lot weaker.
This doesn’t mean we should let up the pressure, or that we can breath easier, but it does go to show how useless and self-important, inbred legislation defeates itself on the world ball field.
So take a day off from NAIS, read about RFID, learn what you can do to stop Global Warming, find some shade, read up on the Amero, or the new RFID drivers licenses we’re all going to get–even our non-driving kids–and gear up for fighting the NAIS at your local county Fair next month. Nothing say’s we’re not going to take it like an angry mob shouting at elected officials and their flunkies.
Comment Podchef — July 27, 2006 @ 10:20 am
I have written letters to my senators and all they tell me is how great this program will be. It will help in BSE even And that this program will not be a burden to me.
Here is a letter from Don Young -Alaska I received.
Dear Mrs. Swift ,
Thank you for contacting me to express your views on H.R. 3170, the National Animal Identification System (NAIS). I appreciate you taking the time to contact me regarding this very important issue.
As part of its ongoing efforts to safeguard animal health, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) initiated the implementation of NAIS in 2004. NAIS is a cooperative state-federal-industry partnership to standardize and expand animal identification programs and practices to all livestock species and poultry. Its three main initiatives are premises identification, animal identification, and animal tracking. The long-term goal of NAIS is to provide animal health officials with the capability to identify all livestock and premises that have had direct contact with a disease of concern within 48 hours after discovery.
I sympathize with your reservations about injecting microchips in horses. Their sensitivity and existing vet costs incurred by mandatory health certificates when participating in shows or shipping them appears to be a cumbersome legislative addition. However, the initiative would provide a useful system of tracking that would address less responsible horse owners than yourself . H.R. 3170 was referred to the House Committee on Agriculture on June 30, 2005 and an Executive Comment was requested from the USDA on July 14, 2005.
Once again, thank you for expressing your views on this issue and if this bill comes to the House I will keep your thoughts in mind. If you have any further questions or comments about this or any other matter, please let me know. Your thoughts and views are always welcome.
Sincerely,
DON YOUNG
Congressman for All Alaska
They are getting the Letters they just do not care what we have to say.
Comment Gisela — July 27, 2006 @ 11:09 am