When they find out about the National Animal Identification System (NAIS) some people say to me, “I just won’t register.” Yes, you might get away with that but I would not suggest taking that as a policy. The reason is quite simple. The fines can easily be $1,000 or even more per incident per day. Each unregistered animal you have could count as a separate incident. How many chickens do you have? 10? Well, that comes to $10,000 per day in fines. Lets say they wait and enforce the rule on you after three months. That is 93 x $10,000 = $930,000 in fines for non-compliance. They will take your home, your land, your livestock, your vehicles, your savings, everything. Without a home you won’t have a farm or a place to come home to after work. You probably won’t have a job - few homeless people can keep their jobs. You would be destitute. Ask yourself, “Do you really want to start over from scratch at this point in your life?”
Simply thinking, “I won’t register” is not good enough. You must fight NAIS now while you still have the chance to have an effect. Leave comments with the USDA. Write Neil Hammerschmidt, the USDA Animal ID Coordinator. Write your state department of agriculture. Write your legislative representatives at both the state and federal levels in the House and Senate. Write your governor. Write the President or call him at 1-800-696-6322 where you can leave comments with a live operator. Write letters to the editor to your your local newspapers. Put a bumper sticker on your car. Hang up posters. Pass around handouts.
Spread the word. The more people who know about the harmful effects of NAIS the more people who will get upset and do something about it. Don’t be lazy and think you can just get away without registering. Sticking your head in the sand won’t make the NAISties go away.
The usda is nothing more than an over funded pawn of a global government. Indiana is, at this time, only one of three states to pass premise id legislation. In two separate meetings, I asked the state veterinarian if I could allow my animals to “live their lives out on my property without having a premise id number. She said I could as long as the livestock didn’t enter commerce. Sounds more like market control to me.
Doreen Hannes has written a white paper titled; “NAIS Spawned by International Entanglements” and is available by request from animalwaitress@yahoo.com. Please post it if you can.
Americans are waking from a long slumber and the race is on to 100*C.
Comment Dan Frantz — March 30, 2006 @ 7:52 am
This is exactly what I feared. The govt. has certain rights to take things for non-payment of say, fines etc. (taxes). Since this is a govt. program, they of course have those rights. Perhaps you have uncovered just another ulterior motive behind this NAIS thing! Scary!
Comment Mary — March 30, 2006 @ 8:51 am
Subject: Navajo Message for the Moon
When NASA was preparing for the Apollo Project, it took the
Astronauts to a Navajo reservation in Arizona for training.
One day, a Navajo elder and his son came across the space crew
Walking among the rocks. The elder, who spoke only Navajo, asked a question.
His son translated for the NASA people: “What are these guys in the
Big suits doing?” One of the astronauts said that they were practicing a trip to the
moon.
When his son relayed this comment the Navajo elder got all excited
and asked if it would be possible to give to the astronauts a message to
deliver to the moon. Recognizing a promotional opportunity when he saw one,
a NASA official accompanying the astronauts said, “Why certainly!” and The Navajo
elders comments into the microphone were brief. The NASA official asked
the son if he would translate what his father had said.
The son listened to the recording and laughed uproariously. But he refused to translate. So the NASA people took the tape to a nearby Navajo village
and played it for other members of the tribe. They too laughed long
and loudly but also refused to translate the elder’s message to the
moon. An official government translator was summoned. After he finally
stopped laughing the translator relayed the message “WATCH OUT FOR THESE
########. “THEY HAVE COME TO STEAL YOUR LAND.”
Comment Mary — March 30, 2006 @ 8:55 am
Out of curiousity, I went through the anti-NAIS groups listed on your site, state by state, and noted that, with only a few exceptions, they were all founded in the last couple months. That tells me that your site — and others like it — ARE reaching more and more people. The cat is out of the bag and yowling like hell! Resistance IS RISING!!! Also, BTW, I wrote to McMurray Hatchery back when they were first fence-sitting. It wasn’t my letter alone, I’m sure, but I see today that they have come out on the anti-NAIS side. I’m sure those letters DID haver an impact. So– everyone keep working on getting the word out, telling friends & neighbors, putting the heat on politicians — we CAN beat this thing!
Comment rooster-lover — March 30, 2006 @ 10:10 am
I feel like I am living in another country where I can’t move without a pass. I trail ride my horse a lot, we even go to different states to ride. Imagine how many horses would end up on the killers racks because folks can’t afford to ID their animals, or won’t ID their animals. Sickins me!
Comment Tamara Haley — March 30, 2006 @ 10:36 am
When did Mr McMurray jump off the fence?? I received an email from him last week saying they were going to be taking a sit and wait position??
Comment Mullers Lane Farm — March 30, 2006 @ 2:06 pm
For the record (i.e. not registering and fines) straight from the IL Dept of Ag and a USDA representative just last week:
The first offense will not result in a a fine, they will expect you to sign up at that time. They couldn’t imagine fines being as high as $1,000.00 … perhaps $500 for a repeat offender …
Comment Mullers Lane Farm — March 30, 2006 @ 2:08 pm
Sounds like McMurray’s left hand does not know what their right hand is doing. On 3/21 I got a letter stating:
As to the fines, is that $500 one time fine or per day and per incident? If so then the difference between $1,000 and $500 becomes rapidly trivial. Either way there should be no fines for simply maintaining our traditional farming and rural way of life.
Comment walterj — March 30, 2006 @ 2:51 pm
If we allow our animals to have this id, how long before it is pushed onto humans. And if we decide against it, what happens to us? more fines, or worse.We all need to fight this now, I agree with that….
Comment Becky — March 30, 2006 @ 4:12 pm
I was wondering if someone can help me follow this through logically.
My question is the inclusion of horses in the NAIS, when we don’t eat horses in this country. Logically this leads me to believe that it for international consumption. So, I look into the slaughter industry of horses and I discover 3 internationally owned processing companies in the US. 2 in Texas, one that has been zoned to close in September, but is filing an appeal. The last one is in Illinois and it re-opened
in 2004 after a fire.
2 significant bills were passed by the Congress stating no processing of horses for human consumption. It would seem that is a victory. Recent legistlation also states that no USDA meet inspectors will be funded by our government. The processors turn around and are willing to pay a fee-for-service of $46. and something an hour out of their pocket to have the meat inspected. Congressmen are angry over this slight of hand after the voting of the 2 bills.
Then the 35 year old rules of adopting wild horses has been changed. Now purchasers are considered owners the day they buy the animal versus a 1 year waiting period and these animals are showing up in the meet processing plants.
Seems on one hand, the government is ramping up to process horses in this country (or at least preserve the 3 international plants we have currently) throught the NAIS and on the other hand is trying to pass legislation that is attempting to illiminate slaughter of horses.
Is it your opinion that the one hand doesn’t know what the other is doing, or is to confuse the public or both??
Any thoughts???
Thanks so much for your info
LuAnn Fredrickson
MN
Comment LuAnn — March 30, 2006 @ 4:15 pm
Hi Fellow Americans and All States in NoNAIS:
I have been discussing NoNAIS.org the U.S.D.A.’s, Terrible Outcomes,
for ALL people if the USDA, gets NAIS mandatory for us all. However, I
am bombarded with a few fellow workers, friends, some even OWN HORSES,
and birds, and they are JUST PLAIN NOT INTERESTED, they won’t even go
look at the Websites…The horse and bird owners, just say, “It’s NO
big deal.” but they won’t even read about it, to see how Ungodly
Serious the USDA threat to us all is…
I have come to the conclusion that, it is up to, the FEW of US, that
have opened up our minds and souls, to recognize the THREATS to our
Lives and Freedoms. The NAIS regulations will be life altering and
non-forgiving by the U.S. Government…if they get there way…
The NAIS Government people have a “term” for us all that are NoNAIS
people, as well as the other people in the USA that put their head in
the sand…The USDA refers to us all as “Their National Herd.” This
implies to me that the USDA and the U.S. Government consider ALL of us
just an ANIMAL, with very limited intelligence, and that we will just
blindly follow the U.S.D.A. to the containment pen, forever more…
Well, I Won’t lie down and put MY head in the sand.. And I WON’T let
the ridiculous comments of the people, who choose to ignore this life
altering threat, deter me from My Pro-Active, Assertive, and Non-stop
efforts to Rid this Great Country of the Plague, called USDA-NAIS…..
They say, the U.S. Marines, essentially say,”We need a Few Good Men.”
What I say, is:
“We need ALL Good Men and Women to FIGHT, and DEFEND This Country’s
Freedom, now, not when it becomes too late.”
Please, all you GOOD PEOPLE, take just a few moments EVERY day, and
make a pro-active effort to “do something positive, towards getting
the WORD OUT, about NoNAIS state groups, national groups, and NoNAIS.
org.
Just reading about the problem, won’t STOP the PROBLEM, and it is
obvious there are people who just won’t open up their minds to this,
maybe because it is so unthinkable………and they just can’t believe
it…
We may be A “FEW” GOOD MEN and WOMEN, now………BUT……….
“WE” can change that……………..!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thankyou, for listening to me….Good Luck in the Fight!!!
NoNAIS.org thankyou!
Dean
DeanAFOSI@…
A Horse Owner.
A Freedom loving, Horse Owner.
And Going to Stay That Way.
By Fighting Now, before it’s too late.
FIGHT NOW!
Comment DeanAFOSI (IOWA) — March 30, 2006 @ 6:21 pm
I have found the same thing as Dean. I started telling people about NAIS months ago when I first found out about it, and they are just plain not interested. Even when I explain what it will mean to them (most all of them try and eat organic and like to buy local when they can)they just kind of look at me like I’ve gone off my rocker and wonder how in the world could I be so paranoid.
Comment Grace — March 31, 2006 @ 10:56 am
yeah it’s a bummer. Nobody can stamd me anymore, but you’re right. We are the leaders alas…
talking to two old ladies at the
librairy(i’m an old lady too)
me “what do you think about what’s going on in the government
these days? blank stare…me “I mean do you support the president?” blank stare….then
“the bible tells us to support the president…” me “even if he’s a crook?” blaank stare”it doesn”t say anything about thatbut we still support hom,”
end of conversation…..
imagine trying to talk about NAIS with these ladies…..
my solution is just to get with my representative
and make local contacts that can make a difference and be
honest and empassioned and
hardworking and just forget about the patrick leahys and
arlon spectors etc……they
don’t count.We count and our
animals count and we will go down with dignity….
meanwhile love your animals
and enjoy the moment….
siddartha@care2.com
Comment sid sargent — March 31, 2006 @ 7:35 pm
This isn’t easy folks. Fighting for any cause! I have been called many things in this fight. Even my dear husband told me I was “taking my cause too far” when I refused to shop at Wal-mart. Publix didn’t have his favorite ice-cream and he was really upset about that. I do wish Americans would get that upset over losing their simple right to be self-sufficient!
Comment Goatster — April 1, 2006 @ 5:51 am
For those that talk about getting blank stares and looked at like a member of the tin hat brigade remember this.
Few people know that this even exists. Just going up to somebody and mentioning this program, will at the very least plant the name of the offensive program in their mind. Don’t approach people expecting them to suddenly act like they fully understand the implications and want to run out with flyers and petitions to help the “cause.”
Once the four letters “NAIS” have been placed in their head the next time they hear about “NAIS” they may remember that they heard it before. This process hopefully will continue, regardless of their opinion on the matter, until the individual realized that people they know and see every day talk about NAIS or have heard about NAIS. The more people talk, the more information will be found, used, and shared within groups leading to organization.
Education and knowing you aren’t a lone individual standing for something go a long way.
Comment Jolly Sapper — April 1, 2006 @ 3:37 pm
“Seems on one hand, the government is ramping up to process horses in this country (or at least preserve the 3 international plants we have currently) throught the NAIS and on the other hand is trying to pass legislation that is attempting to illiminate slaughter of horses.
Is it your opinion that the one hand doesn’t know what the other is doing, or is to confuse the public or both??
Any thoughts???”
My opinion is they are trying to look like they support anti slaughter legislation, but really don’t care. So my answer to your question is “both”.
Comment Barbara — April 1, 2006 @ 4:07 pm
I am on the ‘bandwagon’ and making every attempt to awaken people to the NAIS, and in many cases, am being ignored! I tell them to visit the websites, to read just what is going on, one person, just walked away from me, blew me right off, however, several others listened and were appalled, they were not aware of the upcoming system. This most certainly will affect horse owners in a very big way.
Comment arlene — April 2, 2006 @ 7:36 am
Most horse owners I’ve talked to think ID is only for cattle, or that all they have to do is chip. Even my vets don’t know what NAIS encompasses.
Comment Barbara — April 2, 2006 @ 10:39 am
I’ve read many of the comments, and agree that the NAIS will not serve to protect us, but rather to control us, and in the end prevent us from farming sustainably. Please go to our site www.vermontrepublic.org and consider the value of signing on to secession as the only way to reclaim our sovereignty.
We will be presenting ideas at the statemhouse, noon on 4/27.
Remember: the feds and their salesmen will stoop to anything, as they did when they stole the VT sheep flocks on bogus claims of mad cow.
Comment Jim Hogue — April 2, 2006 @ 4:44 pm
What we really need to do is declare war on the United States of America. They’ll win of course. But then they’ll spend $90,000,000,000 a year rebuilding Vermont for a few years. Then they’ll leave after setting up a puppet government that we can topple. :)
I’m all for secession but the problem with simply seceding is remember what happened when the South tried that…
Comment walterj — April 2, 2006 @ 7:11 pm
For all the sqawking the NH nais meeting I went to had a whopping 4 people attend other than myself. The 4h goat coordinator, who has bought the doctrine wholeheartedly, hatchland dairy, an older lady who honestly don’t remember where she was from, and a relative with race horses.
The state vet was there with his UNH intern and the dairy extension specialist.
They kept saying it was voluntary. When asked if it would continue voluntary the answer I got was “I don’t know.”, with a distinct drop of the eyes to the ground. Crawford, the state vet, did say that the USDA did back away from the timeline.
I was the only one in the room questioning the plan or the authority. My cousin was against it but I had to shush her a bit because she was angry beyond being constructive. Crawford flashed a little dangerous when I questioned his authority to even implement something like this.
I also questioned the big secrecy behind this. Most people don’t know and when I say something they act like it’s some weird conspiracy theory.
Crawford did say he wasn’t going to try to take it to the backyard level like Vermont’s Kerr is trying to do but he did say if I were to sell just one critter I would need a premise ID. Which takes it down to the backyard level.
I did tell him he needed to go out and talk to people. Most I know don’t have internet. Nothing in the bulletins or papers makes for a poor turnout. He did agree. I told him he needed to show up in person to the Rumney livestock auction. He agreed. Will see if he shows. Most of those people don’t read the papers. Don’t know how to even turn a computer on, ordinary farmers and hobbyists. A lot of them are what might be called the working poor. Barely surviving. Looked to me like he hadn’t considered that NH would have a large population of people like that. They get forgotten alot because they are too busy trying to survive to voice an opinion. I did suggest to Crawford that he have a change of clothes in his trunk. I wouldn’t treat him like the Maine vet but there are people who would.
4 people in the states largest farming area, the CT river valley, is a damn poor turnout! I can’t stress enough how important it is to get your opinions heard. Write, call, show up at meetings. Call reps and senators, AG officials.
Make noise people!
Walter, what you need to do is become part of NH then we sucede and declare the “right to revolution” as outlined in the state’s constitution.
Crawfords young intern did read this site a bit. She wanted to post things here but was afraid of attack. I did tell her dialogue was good just be ready to prove her convictions with real data.
I have to admit that all the state people were pleasant enough and would hear me out but I was only one person.
4 people. Really disappointing.
Comment Sue F — April 3, 2006 @ 3:12 am
Like you said, not many people have computers or read the papers. I have several cousins who will NOT watch the news or read a paper. Talk about having your head in the sand. Ignorance is BLISS. One had NO idea we had a rover on Mars! A lot of folks just don’t know life or the world outside their 4 walls. The word has to get out, we are in the beginning stages of doing that, and I agree most folks also think you are a radical nut to even suggest our government would even think of doing such a thing. It is hard to get folks to listen!
Comment Goatster — April 3, 2006 @ 8:03 am
Well Good PEOPLE , I give you the 1st Iowa Senator’s Response to my question, Will anyone in the Iowa Legislature stand up and STOP NAIS/USDA? My first Senator’s response is Typical “Bull”, Iowans are getting no help from this man..Remember him on the BAD tyo NoNAIS, List PLEASE, and Everyone, Remember, how Our Rights to Freedom go Unprotected by Senator’s PASSING THE BUCK, as follows: Here I present the Senator from IOWA::: and his comment,, short, and having No Point but “BULL.”: QUOTE:
“This is a federal issue Dean”: UNQUOTE.
State Senator Tom Hancock
Iowa Senate Democrats
——————————From: DeanAFOSI@aol.com [mailto:DeanAFOSI@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:00 PM
P.S. I do give Senator Tom Hancock (his email address), CREDIT for at least coming forward and quickly, to answer my question. At least HE has the courage to STAND UP and Say SOMETHING specific…Maybe if everyone who reads this comment emails/write’s this IOWA Senator about the Government’s Waste of TAX Dollars, on BOGUS tracking programs like NAIS, where children’s horses, ponys, cows, pigs, chickens,etc. may run off the ID premises, then the Government Federal Regulation (Mr. Senator Hancock) enforced BY MY GOOD State of IOWA local office, will most surely (according to regulation, Sir)then fine the parent/premises owner a $1,000 fine, when a possible alleged gun runner who walks down the street with his oozzee, past the pony, may only get a slap on the wrist.. Dangerous kids riding a pony off premises, right Senator? Welcome to FREEDOM’s gate!
Well GOOD PEOPLE, this Hill is worth FIGHTING for…I have only Begun to FIGHT NAIS…are you with me??? GOOD PEOPLE???
Comment DeanAFOSI (IOWA) — April 3, 2006 @ 3:41 pm
some good news, my good people, is that some of my fellow friends/coworkers, came up to me at work, and told me they checked out this website NoNAIS.org. and that they stayedon it over 4 hours….Bravo to my fellow friends…Getting the word out, does work, and soon this country of forgetful Legislators are going to get it, or, we get them out….Bet USDA doesn’t fine any Legislator’s, when their animals escape off the premises. If NAIS goes thru, I am applying to be the “cow-cop” so I can go fine those Legislator’s who think this is “only” a Federal problem issue…Bingo…
Comment DeanAFOSI (IOWA) — April 3, 2006 @ 5:09 pm
Everyone, I am ill today, so in my misery, I decided to telephone the “Iowa” Governor and Lt.Governor. They were not in, but I left a message that We the People, and me specifically, are not going away on NoNAIS. And to please brief the Iowa Legislature’s that We will moniter daily thru NoNIAS.org and the Iowans Against Nais, websites.I asked each of them to please take action to stop NAIS from being implemented. There comes a time when all good people have to take a stand. This is now the issue at hand. Freedom is worth fighting for. I think our forefather’s proved the point well. I will be logging most of my comments onto the Iowa Against Nais site,found on the right side of this webscreen, so as to not overburden the comments section here..Thankyou.. DEAN AYERS GLENWOOD, IOWA
DeanAFOSI@aol.com
Comment DeanAFOSI (IOWA) — April 4, 2006 @ 7:47 am
I wrote both my state representative and my state senator twice regarding NAIS. I called both of their offices today and got the same reply I got from the State Ag Officer/Animal Industries… “It’s a federal program. We can’t do anything about it.” Even when I told them what other bold states are doing to prevent state monies from being used to implement this travesty I got lukewarm responses at best. My state Senator’s aide seemed to think NAIS was a good idea “because of bird flu” even after I showed him in the implementation plan how NAIS will not STOP any animal disease. Florida is lost, as far as I am concerned. There are too many legiscritters from the paved-over, fat cat, razzle-dazzle richboy places in power now. They could care less about the small farmer and backyard animal owner.
Comment Grace Jaye — April 4, 2006 @ 11:28 am
It is interesting to see our form or government at work. We elect them, they “forget” them. Silence is golden, and a clue to where each Legislator stands on this issue(nais). Power and Position in Government causes an elected/appointed person in government, to reject everyone else, who the politician, then looks down upon, as insignificant, to their own personal gains in the political environment of agri-biz & govi-biz.
Comment DeanAFOSI(IOWA) — April 4, 2006 @ 12:09 pm
From the beginning, the premise identification has been as repugnant to me as the tracking of animals. Big Government knows where we all live, and everything about us. I believe concessions will be made (at least temporarily), on horses, 4-H and FFA, and possibly animals for personal use. However, I do not believe they will budge on the premise ID, no matter what other concessions are made. Because Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution sets out federal jurisdiction of 10 square miles around Washington, D.C., I believe this premise ID, by either a signature or registering of a password on the internet, will constitute ceding “voluntary”, permanent jurisdiction of our property to the federal government, creating an open-ended contract. Of course, those who thought they would be exempt from tagging their animals could find themselves included anyway. That contract could later easily include growing vegetables, fruit trees, herbs, water consumption, weapons confiscation — anything Big Government wants. I believe the animal issue just happened to be convenient at this point. It could have easily been about any other issue they wanted to pull out of a hat. The dumbed-down public will buy the timing of animal tracking easiest. And then, there is, of course, “convenient” disease outbreaks whenever it might appear animal ID is too intrusive. The main thing is, THEY WANT JURISDICTION, and then everything else they want will be theirs. The old saying, “You can’t see the forest for the trees” applies to so many of Big Government’s schemes. (Mr. Jeffries, since this is the first message I have ever tried to put on any website, ever, and I do not ever send or receive e-mail, I would appreciate my e-mail address not being published, as some others are not. Thanks.)
Comment Goat Gal (Diana) — April 6, 2006 @ 3:27 pm
I have not read every post so apologize if my following concern has already been addressed.
Seven years ago I bought two registered wolf hounds from a breeder who had begun chipping her pups. The puppies I brought home were brothers from the same litter. Each has a ‘passive’ chip with an id number that can be scanned.
We live over a mile from our nearest neighbor, eleven miles from town & the nearest cell tower, and have kept them nearly exclusively at home. They are not inclined to wander off on their own.
This particular breed can be easily overwhelmed by careless or aggressive handling. They are sight hounds.
I have noticed that under some as yet unidentified conditions, when all other factors appear to remain constant, they withdraw into an unused dairy barn milking parlor which is totally inclosed with concrete walls. They will remain there even at feeding time until whatever conditions which agitated them have resolved. They are not panicked, do not howl, or act aggresively, but they do act very much like they are having to cope with something out of the ordinary.
I began to wonder if those microchips were picking up radio frequencies or some other electromagnetic frequencies which were intolerable to them. I asked our vet to remove them, but was told that because they are so tiny, because scar tissue would have encapsulated them, and because they are lodged so near the spine it would be virtually impossible to cut them out without either crippling or killing the dogs.
I do not want any of my animals to be subjected to microchipping. My experience with these two convince me that these chips are capable of causing tissue rejection at least and possible intolerable suffering at worst.
I would appreciate any documented input on this particular concern.
No one seems to be addressing this chipping issue as a possible source of suffering in our flocks and herds.
the dakotas
Comment donna — April 8, 2006 @ 9:12 pm
Just received my copy of Farmer’s Field Guide to NAIS from Free to Farm. Everyone MUST purchase this book. It will place even more intense importance on the subject of premise ID than any of us have touched on. I am going to order a second copy — one will be mine, and the other will be to check out to others. I am going to carry a copy everywhere I go, along with order forms. This premise ID is so disgustingly underhanded, but, if my quick glancing of the book is correct, we won’t be able to cry unconstitutional if we “volunteer” for premise ID. For the last 14 years I have been very suspicious of all levels of government — from city to the UN. I’m so thankful I have not been a kool-aid drinker since 1992, or else I would have not met all of you. Thank you all.
Comment Texas Goat Gal — May 3, 2006 @ 8:12 am
Has anyone else ordered the “Farmer’s Field Guide to NAIS”? I have had my copy for about 3 weeks. I am still re-reading and digesting the implications of NAIS, and, in particular, the premise ID. The book is so informative, I feel fortunate to have ordered it. If anyone else has received their copy, could you please share your impressions. Thanks.
Comment Texas Goat Gal — May 22, 2006 @ 4:43 pm
How does one go about getting “unvolunteered” from the NAIS? In our ignorance we signed up for the USDA tags under the scrapie program several years ago because we were informed that we could not sell lambs or goats at auction without a tag. Then it occurred to us that someone else could buy one of our tagged animals, take it home, let it get sick with some horrible disease, and then it would show up with our premises ID on it. So we only ever tagged one animal.
Last July we got a letter from the Tennessee Dept. of Agriculture saying, basically, “Here’s your new NAIS card. We signed you up since you were in the scrapie program.”
How do we get removed? Do we just send the card back with a letter? How can we make sure we really get removed?
Comment Ginny in TN — June 8, 2006 @ 4:35 pm
Most of the comments that I have seen here have been people expressing their emotions about this horribly manipulative plan. We need to get past our initial feelings about this and MAKE A PLAN!!!!The first thing we need to do is inform people about this. Knowledge is power!!! The more people that know about this, the more chance we have of stopping it. I am going to try to print some info about it and bring it to every horse event that I can. If everyone that reads this can spread the word, that would be a good thing! Let’s get organized about this!
Comment heidi — June 17, 2006 @ 12:17 am
Heidi, See the handout and poster below. In the right sidebar under Sample Flyers there is a horse version of the poster and a large print version of the handout. Also see the “What can I do to help” in the left sidebar under Just the Facts.
Comment walterj — June 17, 2006 @ 4:56 am
Nice site. Thank to work…
Comment bede — June 27, 2006 @ 5:58 pm
Ginny-I attempted to get removed from WSDA/USDA list: Here is their response, June 6,2006:
“2. RCW 42.56.100 Protection of Public Records makes it unlawful to purge records on you, your husband, your farm and property as you have requested.”
I am not part of any animal program and they collected my information without my consent or knowledge.
Celeste
Comment Celeste — June 28, 2006 @ 7:26 am
Celeste - by profession, I am a genealogist. Normally, the last thing I would speak out against is a law to protect records. However, there are always exceptions…
If the government is going to slowly devlove into a totalitarian state, and collect information on everyone, then the best thing to push for is a law requiring any and all records to be shredded!
What governments can do with information is truly frightening. It only recently came out that many of the Nazi “efficiencies” were due to the fact Nazi Germany was the first “information age” government.
See *IBM and the Holocaut* by Edwin Black - warning, it is disturbing reading. But, people need to know just how much harm a government can do by collecting data.
After all, the numbers tattooed on the arms of concentration camp inmates were apparently IBM punch card numbers… How much more convenient to simply insert a chip without the necessity for all that tattooing. Aaarrrggghhh!
Comment Ray — June 29, 2006 @ 12:23 pm
i thought it was far-fetched when i saw internet sites about work camps, or concentration camps in the US. But the more i research what is happening the more i believe what i saw on that website. They will probably not seek to justify anything, but confiscate everything you own, investigations will be a poor standard and one that if you do not fit, you will probably loose. I am quite sure the veterinarian knows and won’t risk revealing thier knowledge of NAIS to you, afterall they want to sell you vaccines, what else are they good for. Just think of the medical procedures they can mandate after NAIS. Even the owners of these animals could be quarantined and force unwanted medical procedures on. This just keeps snowballing and it’s ugly
NAIS is not the only implant they are planning, real id is the next step, because it will be alot easier to implement once NAIS happens. I hate to say it but to protect my family I have already started making arrangements to live outside this country, just to spare my family from this. I would hate for them to terminate my childs’ dog because of a chip, that would be devastating, so would it be to see the dog suffer from repeated injections of a rfid that his body may reject. WHo knows if every animal can even tolerate this, let alone to the possiblity of what could happen after NAIS is implemented.
Comment irene — June 29, 2006 @ 1:50 pm
Ray-I agree, everything should be shredded. I do genealogy too ;-) I also am intimately aware of the Holocaust as many of my family perished in the camps. That is my next article. A comparison of NAIS & the Holocaust. I have the rough draft completed. It is incredible! A good read: some of Richard Rubenstein’s books on the topic, including the collectivism of agriculture by Stalin. Ed Black is a good writer too.
Comment Celeste — June 29, 2006 @ 4:31 pm
NAIS will never work. Even if they succeed in getting it implemented it will fail just like similar programs have faliled in other countries. What it will do is devestate the smallest farmers and animal owners. Sad to say.
Comment Pigeon Lad — August 7, 2006 @ 8:39 pm
Stay focused people. No crazy theories comparing anything to NAIS. NAIS is a very bad thing, but do not let yourselves be marginalized as a bunch of kooks. This is about market control and passing the buck. This is how it was explained to me.
>people get sick in Houston, TX
>source of sickness is ABC Restaurant.
>Source of sickness is tainted beef
>source of tainted beef is xyz packing plant
>source of beef is cows from 15 small farms in Wisconsin
>restaurant says bad meat, not our fault…meat distributor says bad meat, not our fault…packing plant says bad cows not our fault….goodbye 15 small farms in Wisconsin. This is what it is all about. What happens when we no longer have the right to feed ourselves?
Comment David — August 9, 2006 @ 4:44 am
Just heard about yoru site from a friend in Melborne. Great reasource. Fight it to the end! Looks to me like your NAIS is going to be as bad or worse than DARFA in England or NLIS here in Australia. The last thing we all need is more government control over our lives. They wreak everything. I do not have livestock but my brother does. I am faced with higher prices at the market because of stupid gov programs like this. No good.
Comment tad — August 9, 2006 @ 12:10 pm
There was an article by Chris Guinto suggesting that the Hemmingway cats and feral chickens be eliminated from Key West on the grounds that the cats and chickens “aren’t allowed to roam freely because of their “‘exoctic status’” and that the people “need to get their priorities straight.” My response is:
I say, “First, let the political leaders get their priorities straight.” This country of ours is being flooded with illegal immigrants whilst the political leaders are turning a deaf ear to the cries of American citizens, demanding that something be done about it. Until the politicans stop their two-faced ways, they shall never be taken seriously.
It sure would be a meaningless life if bureaucrats ever fulfill their horrendeous agenda. They’d regulate and tax every single thing that makes life rich and full for people. The feral cats and chickens have had the run of Key West for nearly two hundred years, and it is only in recent years that they are becoming a “problem.” Why now? The answer is very simple: For one, the government is trying to move forward with their National Animal Identification System (NAIS) upon us and our beloved animals. The ulterior plans of NAIS has far more to do with profit than disease prevention. We cannot afford to let them bully us into submission. Hold your heads up high and take courage, for such corrupted government people are cowards at heart.
If there are rogue roosters and cats, it is up to the local homeowners to capture and relocate them. The chickens and cats are great reminders of how free and full life is, when we remove our own self-imposed “laws” and regulations in order to placate power-hungry and greedy people in office.
Feral, a.k.a. gypsy chickens and cats are Key West’s icons of Nature for all of us to appreciate and enjoy, irregardless of their “exotic status” that may be on the tiresome books of the state bureaucracy. Here are the immortal words of the Henry Thoreau great, regarding nature VS man-made regulations:
“I love Nature partly because she is not man, but a retreat from him. None of his institutions control or pervade her. There a different kind of right prevails. In her midst I can be glad with an entire gladness. if this world were all man, I could not stretch myself, I should lose al hope. He is constraint, she is freedom to me. He makes me wish for another world. She makes me content with this.” ~ Henry David Thoreau
This is what the Key West chickens and cats represent to me — freedom. Leave them alone, and I urge everyone to resist, resist and resist as the government tries to impose NAIS upon all of us, which is what Chris Guinto clearly supports. Let us not let the government brownshirts intimidate us into submission, but rather, let us rise up and make this monster back off into its ugly hole from whence it came.
For freedom for ALL,
John Sherrer
Telllico Plains, TN
Comment John Sherrer — August 11, 2006 @ 2:15 pm
I agree wholeheartedly that we have to fight this thing, not put our heads in the sand.
That said, Plan B has to be massive non-compliance. I am gradually visiting every homestead on the roads to my remote farm, talking to folks about NAIS, telling them not to co-operate with it in any way. (Almost everyone has a few animals.)
Sure, they can TRY selective enforcement. That’s why it will be very important to organize communities to spring to each other’s defense. Back in the Depression, farmers got together and when the bank/sheriff would try to foreclose on someone’s mortgage and throw them off their land, they met with an angry mob armed with rifles and pitchforks. I hope it doesn’t come to that, but the point is, we need to ORGANIZE our communities and come up with strategies for resistance.
Comment Cathy — August 30, 2006 @ 11:45 am
For a peek at what the premises ID cards might look like:
link
Comment Texas Goat Gal — January 28, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
I love the “if found please return. . .” on the back. Are they serious? In an age of identity theft they’re going to give us one more piece of information tying us to everything and expect people to return it? It wouldn’t take a mastermind to figure out how to hack the card, the information in the database and the system to either discredit you, your livestock and ruin your operation, or just take it all away.
I’d like to see those two dofuses faces when they realized they’ve given the keys to the farm away for a pair of visegrips, a usda pen and an id card entitling them to 24 hour surveillance at some point in the future.
Comment Podchef — January 29, 2007 @ 12:33 am
A replacement fee of $20. Now how much does that card actually cost? 50¢?? Now we can begin to see costs of the program.
Comment Doreen — January 29, 2007 @ 6:32 am
2 years ago, 47 comments,a lot,names that used to be,dont seem to see them any more,hope they just havent given up and quit.if you are out there log in, let us hear from you.
Comment nick — March 25, 2008 @ 7:10 pm