The USDA held a conference call about the new animal identification initiative to replace the failed National Animal Identification System (NAIS) this afternoon. Sharon Z attended and sent these notes:
Premises registration database expunged? … NO.
Glenn Fisher. he’s proud of the scrapie program. Few modifications it could be make to fit other species. Traceability to a location.
Chuck Kiker. traceability to a location, how do you do that?
GF, tag denotes premises,
Prem ID tied to land. Any change to that?
JC Something that will be discussed
Adam from Holisten…state can continue to use established databases?
Clifford…USDA is not going to require PINs State will not have to have a system for ex…. using low cost tags, if a state wants to use official id silver, bruce program, tb, the state could just use that type of system if they so choose.
Nancy…
JC …up to the state to decide which level they want to go to. Don’t have to take it to a specific location. If they can’t find the location, there will be consequences, if you get a bruce trace into a state and you can’t find that, there are certain things that will have to take place
Nancy, what needs to be all that difference, enhancing current system, id of adult cattle, I don’t see what has to be so difference.
Joel…we didn’t see any reward for the risk, what is on the positive reward end, benefit for going above and beyond.
JC move your animals effectively interstate with little problems or issues
Joel, but we haven’t seen that, borders are still shut down.
Neil Dirks…
Bullard….what id meets USDAs needs…feeder cattle, health certs, brands….where is the system functioning properly?
JC..we haven’t take the levels of thresholds conversation, animals tracable back to the state or tribe. all current id that is recognized, no intent of changing that as long as it can get us back to the state or tribe.
Nancy…aren’t alot of those standards UMRs
??raised our fees 10 fold…is there going to be money available, otherwise it is coming out of our pockets. Our states ag dept has had layoffs
JC Non an unfunded mandate, we will be looking for funds from congress included in that to purchase low cost id tags to provide free of charge to producers. that’s our hope, if we aren’t able to get those resources, that will obviously affect what we and the states can accomplish.
??Funds for staff?
JC yes
Nancy…hope that money isn’t going to go into the bureacracy…if states decide to want to begin to tag adult cattle and one of the ways to get that done, cost share, pay the vets, that is where the money needs to be right.
JC I agree Interstae commerce…we recognize that after the fact, actually move across state lines or trible boundaries…
Nancy…hands off intrastate commerce?
JC intrastate is totally up to the states. USDA is only interested in interstate.
Neil… for those animals crossing state lines, potential, if a state didn’t do anything, in essence have a state quarantined until it got something done. Is it all the species…
JC regionalization is always available if needed , that is an option regardless. We know we aren’t going to get 100%, it is unrealistic goal.
JC Not going to be saying 48 hour traceability. Being able to trace a certain amount of time. Weeks instead of months. Not 180 days. Paper records work.
To quote Mark Twain, “The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated”
and “you can’t beat a dead horse.”
The truth about NAIS lays somewhere in between.
USDA: “You can’t beat us. We’re exaggerating that NAIS is dead.”
Comment Esbee — February 28, 2010 @ 1:25 pm
Actually, you CAN beat a dead horse, but it makes you look stupid and accomplishes nothing. So, if NAIS is the dead horse, who is beating it? Us or them?
Comment Barbara — February 28, 2010 @ 2:09 pm
SIGHHhhh
How stupid do they think we are. This is STILL NAIS. Politicians are bought and paid for by the corporations and they are staying BOUGHT!
ANY ID system will morph back into NAIS. In the famous words of Paul Warburg author of the Federal Reserve System
“Relax fellas, don’t you get it? Our object is to get the bill passed. We can fix it up later.”
“…at the insistence of Paul Warburg who was forever the master strategist, they added several very sound provisions to the Federal Reserve Bill. By that I mean they added some provisions which seriously restricted the ability of the Federal Reserve to create money out of nothing. Warburg’s associates said, “Paul, what are you doing? We don’t want those in there this is our bill.” And his response was this, he said, “Relax fellas, don’t you get it? Our object is to get the bill passed. We can fix it up later.” Those were his exact words. “We can fix it up later.” He was so right. It was because of those provisions that they won over the support of William Jennings Bryan the head of the Populist Movement, the last hold-out against the bill….Everything is temporary in politics. When people go to sleep things can get changed.
Warburg was right and they fixed it up later. The Federal Reserve Act since it was passed has been amended over 100 times. Every one of those provisions were long ago removed and many more have been added which greatly expand the power and reach of the Federal Reserve System to create money out of nothing…”
A Talk by G. Edward Griffin
Author of The Creature from Jekyll Island
Comment Snazy snezy — March 10, 2010 @ 10:48 am