Comments on: Bulletin Board 201002

by: Snazy snezy

Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:42:47 +0000

“This would create a whole new “bureaucracy”…as Bill Bullard, CEO of R-calf said re: NAIS….requiring a whole new federal bureaucracy….So where does all this money come from to pay for this? Americans taxes are not enough…thus, the magic printing machine…”
Comment The Phantom

What this does is completely bankrupts the USA and puts us into runaway inflation….

The last I checked 20 t0 25% of the jobs in the USA are government or government related (Accountants to figure taxes, safety and environmental engineers, to comply with regs ect) We have LESS manufacturing jobs than we did in 1970 when I graduated from school.

Adam smith defined wealth as “the annual produce of the land and labor”. Wealth creation is combining materials, labor, land, and technology so there is an excess for trade to others, that is “a profit” in excess of the cost of production. By that definition the USA is producing less and less real wealth while the burden of our bureaucracy becomes crippling.

Most countries last about two hundred years. I think this is the amount of time needed for a crippling burden of laws and bureaucracy to build up and for the masses to get sick of it and overthrow the parasites.

This is the point we are now at but I think we will see hyperinflation and famine before people get uncomfortable enough to want to do something.

I just wish we had some politicians to vote FOR that are not owned by the banks.

P.S. I live in North Carolina and I kick myself for not buying my farm in SC instead.

by: The Phantom

Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:16:16 +0000

Thanks Lee and Snazy and all for your educational info. I wonder how many people know that written in the healthcare bill is :”to hire 16,500 new IRS agents.” Ron Paul said this, as did two other writers…(one said 16,000..the other 15,500…) This would create a whole new “bureaucracy”…as Bill Bullard, CEO of R-calf said re: NAIS….requiring a whole new federal bureaucracy….So where does all this money come from to pay for this? Americans taxes are not enough…thus, the magic printing machine…”monetizing debt”…But Dr. Vieira said, in his speech to the Montana legislature…”money cannot be debt..and debt cannot be money”…once again, go to newswithviews.com look at the left sidebar for Dr. Vieira’s name…and read at least these two articles: Homeland Security: for what and for whom and “The Shearing is Nearing”….look at the dates he wrote them…

by: LEE

Thu, 01 Apr 2010 01:47:11 +0000

Snazy,,very good points!
yes I am aware of what you cited and the fact that the bankers create wealth from thin air and then leverage real goods and labor…thereby creating wealth for themselves out of thin air,so to speak.

The federal reserve is a lie,it is private as you know and uses that majic money to enslave our govt and us through debt,our nations so called debt is mostly money owed to this unconstitutional privately owned bank.

Our constitution empowers and requires congress to coin the money and set the value thereof and requires that nothing be used as money except gold and silver…we know how badly our govt blew that one dont we?

That is one of the main reasons Dr Vierras teaching on real money and the NVCCA “Sound Money bill are so important,to get the states and eventually the nation back to real money and destroy the fed banking sysytem.

The sound money bill is being introduced in SC as we speak and is available to any reps who are interested.
(Did I mention that the anti NAIS bill I helped write is also being introduced in SC?)

Any how back to the point I agree with you we are up against a well financed well oiled machine intent on turning us from a free people into a nation of serfs and lords,guess who gets to play the serfs?

While I am aware of the cost/scope of this fight I am also a firm believer in American freedom,in the American people and in liberty herself,I know we are in trouble,I also know we have to win!
We have NAIS still floating around out there…we have obaminations so called health care that will make any freeman into a slave,force us to buy from the cartel and fine us if we dont buy…and if we dont pay the fine we get five years behind bars which I believe make us felons unable to possess firearms and such,(in America??)
so we are headed to hell fast if we dont stop these people,not to mention the retarded climate bill and letting lawbreakers become citizens,NAIS and on and on,we cant afford to quit..or to lose,or many of us will lose everything!

Its good to talk to someone who sees the bigger picture,keep on teaching as I am sure you do and I encourage everyone to study,study,and study!Question everything and everyone…especially the govt!

The world isnt simple anymore… if it ever was, these people(bankers politicians and NWO types) count on a dumbed down disinterested population who just “dont care” in order to gain the political capital to ram this BS down our throats,

the people still have the means to hold any govt accountable to the rule of law including this one! Thanks! Lee
“Live free or die tryin”

by: Snazy snezy

Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:37:33 +0000

"…there is a rumbling as the sleeping giant once again awakens… the American people are getting involved unlike anytime since WWII and they are seeing what these useless#@*&# are up to and they dont like it!..." Comment LEE — March 28, 2010 @ 7:48 pm Lee, Here is more evidence that the sleeping giant is awakening. I though you and others might be happy to see this news. Looks like the leaked e-mails about the corruption at CRU (climate Research Unit) and the follow up revelations about the lies in the IPCC reports have managed to trickle into the awareness of Joe Sixpack. With the bank cartel caused world wide depression, bank bailouts, the health care fiasco and the Cap & trade ripoff I guess the public has finally seen the light and are voting with their feet. Sea change in American media preferences "While Americans continue to put global warming aka climate change at the bottom of the list of worries, it seems the electronic media outlets that most often push alarming climate stories are losing favor...." These are the same media outlets pushing the rest of the New World Order package. Therefore the dramatic drop in viewers is heartening. "While Fox News continues to see record ratings, their cable news competitors are dropping off even more year-to-year. In the A25-54 demographic during prime time, FNC was up 16%, while CNN dropped 42%, MSNBC was down 22% and HLN was down 40%...." Now if Fox News would borrow the bull's testicles instead of his manure, maybe the USA has a chance of recovering. Truth in the news what a concept!

by: Snazy snezy

Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:22:58 +0000

"There is definatly a plan for a New world Order being implimented BUT what they planned on was for people to remain uninterested,uninvolved…there is a rumbling as the sleeping giant once again awakens… " Comment LEE I agree the people are awakenning but my concern is with whether they will have any effect except for slowing down the ultimate outcome. NAIS is an excellent example of how public opinion has had little effect on diverting TPTB (The Powers That Be) from their objective of implementing their goals. They just try something else but they do not give up... ever These people who want a New World Order are pros at manipulating people. As the News With Views article showed, TPTB have OWNED the press for a hundred years. Rosa DeLauro's hubby Stanley Greenberg is a pollster, strategist and master manipulator of the public and “...specializes in research on globalization, international trade...” ..Republican pollster Frank Luntz says "Stan Greenberg scares the hell out of me. He doesn't just have a finger on the people's pulse; he's got an IV injected into it.” Conference His company, Greenberg Carville Shrum directed Campaigns in 60 countries “As a hired gun strategist, Greenberg—a seasoned pollster and political consultant—has seen it all. In his memoir, he recounts his work with President Bill Clinton, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Bolivian president Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada, and South African president Nelson Mandela. Through his experiences aiding the leaders in pushing their visions for better and clearer domestic and international policies, Greenberg offers an insightful examination of leadership, democracy, and the bridge between candidate and constituency... book review THAT is the type of talent we are up against. So we better be aware of it. We know thanks to Eustace Mullins and his research on the Federal Reserve, that when the Federal Reserve Act did not pass the first time TPTB fielded a third party candidate to guarrantee the democrats "the party of the people" would win. They then had a DEMOCRAT instead of a republican sponsor the bill and changed it to look pallatable. As Warburg said, The idea was just to get the bill passed "we can change it later guys" Actually TPTB backed ALL three candidates but they wanted to switch control from the republicans to the democrats to dupe the people into think there was a "change" and the "new bill" was NOT the old bill. We have been paying for that mistake ever since. It will be a very up hill battle and I do not think we will be allowed to vote for anyone who is not already in the bankers pockets. I have been trying to get people to wake up to what is actually going on. I use the Bankers and Federal Reserve as a starting point because No one, Marxist or Constitutionalist likes to be ripped off by the bankers especially once they realize the bankers lend out counterfeit money and get you labor and property in return. The money bankers lend out did not exist until they "printed it" I kid you not. "Banks typically have 3% of their assets in cash in order to meet customer needs. Since 1960, banks have been allowed to use this “vault cash” to satisfy their reserve requirements. Today, bank reserve requirements have fallen to the point where they are now exceeded by vault cash, which means lowering reserve requirements to zero would have virtually no impact on the banking system. US banks are already operating free of any reserve constraints. The graph below shows reserve requirements falling to zero over the last fifty years...." US banks operate without Reserve I am assuming you under stand what fractional reserve is other wise a good article explaining it is Origins of the Fractional Reserve System Here is a short but good history on the bankers take over The Money Machine and another history The History of The Banking Industry The key to understanding what is happening is to understand fractional reserve banking and how it concentrates wealth and power into the hands of a very few. "....These days, corporations seem to exist for the investment bankers.... In fact, investment banks are replacing the publicly held industrial corporations as the largest and most powerful economic institutions in America.... THERE ARE SIGNS THAT A VICIOUS spiral has begun, as each corporate player seeks to improve its standard of living at the expense of another's. Corporate raiders transfer to themselves, and other shareholders, part of the income of employees by forcing the latter to agree to lower wages. January 29, 1989 New York Times: LEVERAGED BUYOUTS: AMERICAN PAYS THE PRICE

by: The Phantom

Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:37:44 +0000

“The Law” by Frederick Bastiat is a book that all people need to read…it is quoted from all the time,by many…it is only around 70 pages..written over 150 years ago..you can read it at campaignforliberty.com (right sidebar at the bottom…other great freedom documents)…get your politicians a copy…does not cost much at amazon.com…one review by a person stated, after reading it: “what have they done to our country?” You are right Lee..people are waking up all over the country now…NAIS really taught us all a lot about how “things” really work…and it is always…”follow the money”..

by: LEE

Mon, 29 Mar 2010 01:48:44 +0000

There is definatly a plan for a New world Order being implimented BUT what they planned on was for people to remain uninterested,uninvolved…there is a rumbling as the sleeping giant once again awakens… the American people are getting involved unlike anytime since WWII and they are seeing what these useless#@*&# are up to and they dont like it!
Obama may act all cool but hes anything but…I wouldnt count freedom and liberty out yet…things are going to get rough but if folks get serious and dont fall for the old woe is me…we are all going to die nonsense and get out in Nov and throw this batch of proven anti American knotheads out we can set it back and then work on making things right again!
Only a serious return to our founding principles and constitution will stop what is happening,stay focused,stay involved and we will restore the Republic to her former glory! Lee
“Live free or die tryin”

by: Snazy snezy

Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:59:58 +0000
"A very in depth article today (4 parts) by constitutional attorney Dr. Edwin Vieira at newswithviews.com It is titled: “Going to the Roots of the Problem”… and that is the “money” thing…the danger of the dollar’s demise…hyyperinflation…...." Comment The Phantom Phantom, I agree with much of what Dr. Edwin Vieira states except I think he over looked one important point that I just realized as I wrote the reply to Esbee. This time around the elite are planning on having the United Nations step in as the "International Peace Keeping Force" NOT use the US Military. These dudes have been manipulating world politics for generations and unlike the poorly educated masses the KNOW their history and human behavior and oplan to use it. That is why it is absolutely necessary for the worldwide Carbon tax to be in place and in control of the World Bank BEFORE they collapse the USA. The World Trade Agreement was signed in 1995 and as we all know WTO/UN has been writing many of of the laws implemented worldwide ever since. In Sept. 14, 1994 David Rockefeller, speaking at the UN Business Council stated: "This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long - We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." To bring this about they MUST collapse the USA and then step in and "restore order" and remove the US Constitution completely and forever. The Constitution and the US republic MUST be shown to be a failed experiment. It can not remain as a beacon of light so it must be killed and completely trashed. The middle class must also be annihilated so the world can return to a feudal state of serfs and overlords. Think I am kidding? "David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address before the media power brokers in June of 1991 said, “We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in the past centuries.” This national “auto determination” is the single minded determination to follow the rules of a constitution within a Constitutional Republic." News With Views I think I would prefer a take over by the US Military instead of these megalomaniacs intent on ruling the entire world.

by: Snazy snezy

Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:22:30 +0000

“…..notice how recent legislations focus on things people can do to feed themselves like NAIS, ducks and fishing?”

Comment Esbee

Esbee, There are three prongs to the complete control of the world’s population. Control of the money supply by the wealthy elite (Bankers) was accomplished in 1913 here in the USA. Similar schemes were put in place in other countries and now we have the World Bank and IMF in the catbird seat.

Henry Kissinger named the other two.

‘If you control the oil you control the country; if you control food, you control the population.”

NAIS and the “food safety bills” are about controlling food. Again these are worldwide not just here in the USA. The Global Warming Scam is about controlling oil (energy generation). And again this is worldwide not just here in the USA.

Just follow the money:

“Dec 8, 2009 … Developing countries react furiously to leaked draft agreement that would … The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; …”
Guardian UK

The trashing of nuclear power as an energy source was done by the elite in this country too. A cheap energy source would not fit into the scenario needed to stampede people into slavery.

“In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill … All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.”

— in The First Global Revolution, pp.104-105 by Alexander King, founder of the Club of Rome and Bertrand Schneider, secretary of the Club of Rome

Here is another interesting tidbit
In 1944 at the Bretton Woods summit the World Bank was created.

“Rockefeller has also for many years hosted annual luncheons at the family’s Westchester County Pocantico estate for the world’s finance ministers and central bank governors, following the annual Washington meetings of the World Bank and IMF.“
Rockefeller’s Bank

The “plan” is pretty darn obvious once you start tracing all the money connections.

by: Esbee

Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:30:53 +0000

notice how recent legislations focus on things people can do to feed themselves like NAIS, ducks and fishing?