Comments on: More NAIS Listening Sessions http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/ Protect our traditional rights to farm Thu, 17 May 2012 05:01:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Sarah http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1568449 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:21:11 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1568449 I can't figure out how to post on the feedback site. I can get there and read the comments, but am not sure how to post. Can somebody help me? Thanks Sarah in Illinois <i>[Sarah, The <a href="http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/feedback">link</a> above takes you to the USDA NAIS page. From there click on the "Submit your comments and potential solutions" link in the middle of their page. That takes you to the <a href="http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocketDetail&d=APHIS-2009-0027">Regulations</a> page. Along the right side of the page are <a href="http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocketDetail&d=APHIS-2009-0027">yellow links</a>. Just click one of those to leave a comment. Fill out the form. Note that some fields indicated with an star are mandatory. Then click the "Next Step" button/link at the bottom of the page. This will take you to a confirmation page. You <u>must</u> press the submit button/link at the bottom to actually submit your comments. Lots of hurdles in the way of them hearing your voice but be persistent. -WJ]</i> I can’t figure out how to post on the feedback site. I can get there and read the comments, but am not sure how to post. Can somebody help me?

Thanks
Sarah in Illinois

[Sarah, The link above takes you to the USDA NAIS page. From there click on the “Submit your comments and potential solutions” link in the middle of their page. That takes you to the Regulations page. Along the right side of the page are yellow links. Just click one of those to leave a comment. Fill out the form. Note that some fields indicated with an star are mandatory. Then click the “Next Step” button/link at the bottom of the page. This will take you to a confirmation page. You must press the submit button/link at the bottom to actually submit your comments. Lots of hurdles in the way of them hearing your voice but be persistent. -WJ]

]]> by: esbee http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1567507 Sun, 31 May 2009 21:52:08 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1567507 It has truly been inspiring to listen to the comments made by concerned patriots against NAIS in the youtube videos. Keep up the good work and God bless and give you strength. It has truly been inspiring to listen to the comments made by concerned patriots against NAIS in the youtube videos. Keep up the good work and God bless and give you strength.

]]> by: Mrs. Michael Sabo http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1565797 Thu, 28 May 2009 20:07:56 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1565797 Last year our steer was refused from the local packer we have used for 7 years. Why? IPP have "requested" that all livestock which enter for slaughter no matter if private have a Premises ID. We made other arrangements, but many people cannot. Last year our steer was refused from the local packer we have used for 7 years. Why? IPP have “requested” that all livestock which enter for slaughter no matter if private have a Premises ID.

We made other arrangements, but many people cannot.

]]> by: eileen http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1565790 Thu, 28 May 2009 18:37:29 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1565790 According to the last USDA NAIS proposed rules that I have read, the only exemption would be if the animal never left your property. It would not be able to travel to the processor, or rendering without premises id. Beware, when the government is involved, especially the USDA, "Subject to Change" always applies. According to the last USDA NAIS proposed rules that I have read, the only exemption would be if the animal never left your property. It would not be able to travel to the processor, or rendering without premises id.
Beware, when the government is involved, especially the USDA,
“Subject to Change” always applies.

]]> by: Ann http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1565630 Thu, 28 May 2009 13:28:33 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1565630 Barbara, " where will you get your cattle processed when the local butcher shop will be required to get your premises id number?" I was told that local processing for personal use or to sell direct to a consumer would not be part of NAIS - but I do realize that pro-NAIS folks tend to make things up as it suits their needs. That statement did not come from the USDA. I wanted to make people aware of the change in words from co-mingle to co-mingle in commerce. Barbara,

” where will you get your cattle processed when the local butcher shop will be required to get your premises id number?”

I was told that local processing for personal use or to sell direct to a consumer would not be part of NAIS - but I do realize that pro-NAIS folks tend to make things up as it suits their needs. That statement did not come from the USDA.

I wanted to make people aware of the change in words from co-mingle to co-mingle in commerce.

]]> by: Barbara http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1565542 Thu, 28 May 2009 02:48:49 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1565542 We also need to remind USDA that not only won't we comply, but that they are forcing us to forgo testing and vaccinations by tying premise ID to it. They will make things worse than they are now if they continue on this course. We also need to remind USDA that not only won’t we comply, but that they are forcing us to forgo testing and vaccinations by tying premise ID to it. They will make things worse than they are now if they continue on this course.

]]> by: eileen http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1565187 Wed, 27 May 2009 22:32:47 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1565187 Well said Nick, when we make our comments at the USDA site, be sure to stress that we will not comply, never! Being firm in our opposition is probably our only hope of stopping NAIS, because the USDA is sure not listening to reason. Ann, where will you get your cattle processed when the local butcher shop will be required to get your premises id number? According to USDA documents you will need a premises id to even have a dead critter carted off for rendering. Well said Nick, when we make our comments at the USDA site, be sure to stress that we will not comply, never! Being firm in our opposition is probably our only hope of stopping NAIS, because the USDA is sure not listening to reason.
Ann, where will you get your cattle processed when the local butcher shop will be required to get your premises id number? According to USDA documents you will need a premises id to even have a dead critter carted off for rendering.

]]> by: Barbara http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1564582 Tue, 26 May 2009 23:30:11 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1564582 The key word is commingling. Commerce has nothing to do with it. Horse shows have a lot of commingling, but rarely does anyone sell a horse there. The key word is commingling. Commerce has nothing to do with it. Horse shows have a lot of commingling, but rarely does anyone sell a horse there.

]]> by: Ann http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1564513 Tue, 26 May 2009 17:43:29 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1564513 Hammerschmidt - Comingle in commerce. From Hammerschmidt: “In most of those cases, those animals wouldn’t be part of the focus of NAIS. We’re looking at animals that move in commerce. “If I have fix, six, a dozen chickens in my backyard for my own purposes — eggs, eating the chickens — they aren’t moved into commerce so aren’t applicable for NAIS. They aren’t moving off the premises and comingled with others. “Bottom line: no, those animals don’t need to be identified whether a chicken or a calf I’ve raised for my own consumption and processed at a local slaughtering plant.” <a href="http://deltafarmpress.com/legislative/nais-coordinator-0520/" rel="nofollow">Link</a> A state veterinarian at the Austin session also said this about co-mingling in commerce, but did confirm that the purchase of any replacement chicks (or calves) would be considered commerce. As far as I can tell the NAIS business plan did not mention this. Hammerschmidt - Comingle in commerce.

From Hammerschmidt:

“In most of those cases, those animals wouldn’t be part of the focus of NAIS. We’re looking at animals that move in commerce.

“If I have fix, six, a dozen chickens in my backyard for my own purposes — eggs, eating the chickens — they aren’t moved into commerce so aren’t applicable for NAIS. They aren’t moving off the premises and comingled with others.

“Bottom line: no, those animals don’t need to be identified whether a chicken or a calf I’ve raised for my
own consumption and processed at a local slaughtering plant.”

Link

A state veterinarian at the Austin session also said this about co-mingling in commerce, but did confirm that the purchase of any replacement chicks (or calves) would be considered commerce.

As far as I can tell the NAIS business plan did not mention this.

]]> by: esbee http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1564346 Tue, 26 May 2009 03:51:07 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/05/23/more-nais-listening-sessions/#comment-1564346 On this Memorial Day, a poem to remember those who bought our freedom with the highest price to be paid and why we must fight NAIS and other similar programs so as not to bring shame to their memories. In Flanders Fields In Flanders fields the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved, and were loved, and now we lie In Flanders fields. Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields. John McCrae, 1915 On this Memorial Day, a poem to remember those who bought our freedom with the highest price to be paid and why we must fight NAIS and other similar programs so as not to bring shame to their memories.

In Flanders Fields

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

John McCrae, 1915

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