Comments on: USDA Did Listen - Naturally Raised http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/21/usda-did-listen-naturally-raised/ Protect our traditional rights to farm Thu, 17 May 2012 04:55:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Lee http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/21/usda-did-listen-naturally-raised/#comment-1455186 Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:23:50 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/21/usda-did-listen-naturally-raised/#comment-1455186 Right you are Walter! Gee, I guess I have to talk to those dirty unnatural chickens geese and ducks of mine,going to the creek and eating minnows,worms,snakes... (gasp) whatever would the neighbors think, why... next thing you know theyll be skinny dipping,gotta get a handle on this thing quick!:) This is what you get when idiots...er, bureauacrats are allowed to breathe good air,they waste it! Right you are Walter!

Gee, I guess I have to talk to those dirty unnatural chickens geese and ducks of mine,going to the creek and eating minnows,worms,snakes… (gasp) whatever would the neighbors think, why… next thing you know theyll be skinny dipping,gotta get a handle on this thing quick!:)

This is what you get when idiots…er, bureauacrats are allowed to breathe good air,they waste it!

]]> by: Mary Zanoni http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/21/usda-did-listen-naturally-raised/#comment-1455094 Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:00:22 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/21/usda-did-listen-naturally-raised/#comment-1455094 Aside from exactly what definitions may underlie the "naturally raised" claims, there is a much more fundamental problem with these government "marketing claims" programs. Just as with "organic," once the USDA takes over defining and regulating the terms "naturally raised," you most likely will not be allowed to use the terms to described your products unless you are actually in the government program. In other words, the program is "voluntary" insofar as you are not forced to be in the program; but to the thinking of most people, it is in a very real sense "mandatory," because you cannot call your product "naturally raised" unless you sign up for all the paperwork of the USDA program. And remember, the USDA NAIS Business Plan indicates that ultimately the Agricultural Marketing Service will require participation in NAIS as part of any of these marketing-claim programs. So if you want to stay out of NAIS, you will not be able to participate in the AMS "naturally raised" program. Aside from exactly what definitions may underlie the “naturally raised” claims, there is a much more fundamental problem with these government “marketing claims” programs. Just as with “organic,” once the USDA takes over defining and regulating the terms “naturally raised,” you most likely will not be allowed to use the terms to described your products unless you are actually in the government program. In other words, the program is “voluntary” insofar as you are not forced to be in the program; but to the thinking of most people, it is in a very real sense “mandatory,” because you cannot call your product “naturally raised” unless you sign up for all the paperwork of the USDA program. And remember, the USDA NAIS Business Plan indicates that ultimately the Agricultural Marketing Service will require participation in NAIS as part of any of these marketing-claim programs. So if you want to stay out of NAIS, you will not be able to participate in the AMS “naturally raised” program.

]]> by: walterj http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/21/usda-did-listen-naturally-raised/#comment-1453941 Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:43:02 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/21/usda-did-listen-naturally-raised/#comment-1453941 Yes, it does mean that which is wrong headed of them. Fish and meat should be allowed for chickens as they are omnivores. Slaughter wastes are actually an excellent feed for chickens. It is too bad the scare mentality over BSE has taken over good sense. Frankly, even pigs should be allowed to eat meat since they are omnivores although I prefer not to feed meat to our pigs. We got them to make improvements to the short sighted original proposed rule. Now we need to work on fixing this rule for the chickens eating meat, all animals having access to grazing land, humane treatment, etc. One step at a time. Never give up. Yes, it does mean that which is wrong headed of them. Fish and meat should be allowed for chickens as they are omnivores. Slaughter wastes are actually an excellent feed for chickens. It is too bad the scare mentality over BSE has taken over good sense.

Frankly, even pigs should be allowed to eat meat since they are omnivores although I prefer not to feed meat to our pigs.

We got them to make improvements to the short sighted original proposed rule. Now we need to work on fixing this rule for the chickens eating meat, all animals having access to grazing land, humane treatment, etc. One step at a time. Never give up.

]]> by: Tammy http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/21/usda-did-listen-naturally-raised/#comment-1453907 Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:22:06 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/21/usda-did-listen-naturally-raised/#comment-1453907 So, does this mean that I can't use fish meal in my chicken feed and still call my chickens naturally raised? Sort of sounds that way to me. If that is the case, I need some suggestions for a new feed ration. So, does this mean that I can’t use fish meal in my chicken feed and still call my chickens naturally raised? Sort of sounds that way to me. If that is the case, I need some suggestions for a new feed ration.

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