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	<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/</link>
	<description>Protect our traditional rights to farm</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 04:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Henwhisperer</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1497026</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ah, Bea... not enough play time on MeatingPlace? She is equally ugly there.

Self promotion alert:
Have you read my book? It is an excellent resource for those who don't know about NAIS. Go to my &lt;a href=&quot;http://henwhisperer.blogpsot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;
 and click through the link on the right side bar. Or, signed copies available through me. Just drop me an email.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Bea&#8230; not enough play time on MeatingPlace? She is equally ugly there.</p>
<p>Self promotion alert:<br />
Have you read my book? It is an excellent resource for those who don&#8217;t know about NAIS. Go to my <a href="http://henwhisperer.blogpsot.com" rel="nofollow">blog</a><br />
 and click through the link on the right side bar. Or, signed copies available through me. Just drop me an email.</p>
<p>Cheers!
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		<title>by: esbee</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1496840</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1496840</guid>
					<description>The word is getting around to those who like naturally raised veggies that NAIS will not be good for them either....look at the following article

NAIS Threatens Access to Organic, Local and Sustainable Food
Monday, February 09, 2009 by: Barbara Minton, Natural Health Editor  
                 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.naturalnews.com/025569.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;text&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word is getting around to those who like naturally raised veggies that NAIS will not be good for them either&#8230;.look at the following article</p>
<p>NAIS Threatens Access to Organic, Local and Sustainable Food<br />
Monday, February 09, 2009 by: Barbara Minton, Natural Health Editor<br />
                 <a href="http://www.naturalnews.com/025569.html" rel="nofollow">text</a>
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		<title>by: virginia</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1494422</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 03:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Vegans and vegetarians are in deep denial. To grow the veggies they want everyone eating requires huge fields tended by machines that rape the land and kill enormous numbers of animal when they plow and mow and disk and till and cut and harvest. Vegans are the dertiest most hypocritcal people on the face of this planet with their holyer than thou puckered up assholes.

Go Meat Eaters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vegans and vegetarians are in deep denial. To grow the veggies they want everyone eating requires huge fields tended by machines that rape the land and kill enormous numbers of animal when they plow and mow and disk and till and cut and harvest. Vegans are the dertiest most hypocritcal people on the face of this planet with their holyer than thou puckered up assholes.</p>
<p>Go Meat Eaters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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		<title>by: Ed Pell</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1494368</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1494368</guid>
					<description>Please ignore the troll. Do not feed it. Just keep eating good, healthy, humanely produced, pastured meats. Out breed her and out live her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please ignore the troll. Do not feed it. Just keep eating good, healthy, humanely produced, pastured meats. Out breed her and out live her.
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		<title>by: Alice</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1494342</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1494342</guid>
					<description>Bea-
You look pale.
Eat more meat.
Love,
Alice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bea-<br />
You look pale.<br />
Eat more meat.<br />
Love,<br />
Alice.
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		<title>by: Dan</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1494341</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1494341</guid>
					<description>BEA-WARE
BEA IS A P.E.T.A. NUTCASE WHO GOES AROUND MAKING TROUBLE.
SHE IS A RICH LAZY BITCH WHO HAS NOTHING TO DO BUT POST COMMENTS LIKE THIS ON BLOGS.
BEA IS A TROLL LOOKING FOR BAIT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BEA-WARE<br />
BEA IS A P.E.T.A. NUTCASE WHO GOES AROUND MAKING TROUBLE.<br />
SHE IS A RICH LAZY BITCH WHO HAS NOTHING TO DO BUT POST COMMENTS LIKE THIS ON BLOGS.<br />
BEA IS A TROLL LOOKING FOR BAIT.
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		<title>by: Snazy snezy</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1493527</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1493527</guid>
					<description>To  Bea Elliott,

What you eat is you right ....for now.  If big Ag gets its way what you eat will be dictated by a corporation that could care less if they poison you.

As an American you rights stop at my property line.  If you do not agree I suggest you head for a nice communist country like China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To  Bea Elliott,</p>
<p>What you eat is you right &#8230;.for now.  If big Ag gets its way what you eat will be dictated by a corporation that could care less if they poison you.</p>
<p>As an American you rights stop at my property line.  If you do not agree I suggest you head for a nice communist country like China.
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		<title>by: M.A.</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1493402</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1493402</guid>
					<description>Bea take your hate mongering somewhere else. You vegan idiots just dont get it. Veganism is not sustainable. You survive on your little pills and by shipping food in from great distances and using the toxic waste of chemical fertilizers to grow foods in fields that kill off animals. Do you have any idea how much wild-life dies so you can eat your guilt free plates of spinach and peppers? Gads almighty you are such an imbicile.

Heres reality for you-- without livestock farmers you have no organic manures to make the good high quality fertilisers needed to grow quality organic veggies.

GO OMNIVORES!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bea take your hate mongering somewhere else. You vegan idiots just dont get it. Veganism is not sustainable. You survive on your little pills and by shipping food in from great distances and using the toxic waste of chemical fertilizers to grow foods in fields that kill off animals. Do you have any idea how much wild-life dies so you can eat your guilt free plates of spinach and peppers? Gads almighty you are such an imbicile.</p>
<p>Heres reality for you&#8211; without livestock farmers you have no organic manures to make the good high quality fertilisers needed to grow quality organic veggies.</p>
<p>GO OMNIVORES!!!!!!!!!
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		<title>by: Bea Elliott</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1493055</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1493055</guid>
					<description>This appears to me to be just another desperate attempt to cling to a filthy habit... that of consuming animals - It's not necessary.  No matter how &quot;you try to slice it&quot; - it's an ugly ordeal because it is a luxury that requires the highest of &quot;sacrifices&quot; for absolutely no genuine &quot;reason&quot;.  In fact, consuming flesh is more of a detriment to ones health and the environment.  Beyond this too is the &quot;luxury&quot; of the resources that could have gone to feed 6 to 10 times more people.  We should be focusing our attention to a more sustainable, healthy, bloodless alternative - It is time to evolve.

To snezzy... I've been tracking NAIS for a year now... Because of the corporate giants... and the other bad news - looks like it's going to be a reality no matter what.  Vegans - this also affects rescued, sanctuary animals, and eventually &quot;pet&quot; animals.  NAIS &quot;National Animal Identification System&quot; shuts the lid on &quot;animals as property&quot;.  It forces all to be micro-chipped, bar-coded, legal &quot;commodities&quot;.  Rights activists should pay attention to this &quot;system&quot; as it snuffs liberty and freedom not only from non-humans, but humans as well.

As for chopping up pigs and cows and other animals?... Empty the cages - Go Vegan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This appears to me to be just another desperate attempt to cling to a filthy habit&#8230; that of consuming animals - It&#8217;s not necessary.  No matter how &#8220;you try to slice it&#8221; - it&#8217;s an ugly ordeal because it is a luxury that requires the highest of &#8220;sacrifices&#8221; for absolutely no genuine &#8220;reason&#8221;.  In fact, consuming flesh is more of a detriment to ones health and the environment.  Beyond this too is the &#8220;luxury&#8221; of the resources that could have gone to feed 6 to 10 times more people.  We should be focusing our attention to a more sustainable, healthy, bloodless alternative - It is time to evolve.</p>
<p>To snezzy&#8230; I&#8217;ve been tracking NAIS for a year now&#8230; Because of the corporate giants&#8230; and the other bad news - looks like it&#8217;s going to be a reality no matter what.  Vegans - this also affects rescued, sanctuary animals, and eventually &#8220;pet&#8221; animals.  NAIS &#8220;National Animal Identification System&#8221; shuts the lid on &#8220;animals as property&#8221;.  It forces all to be micro-chipped, bar-coded, legal &#8220;commodities&#8221;.  Rights activists should pay attention to this &#8220;system&#8221; as it snuffs liberty and freedom not only from non-humans, but humans as well.</p>
<p>As for chopping up pigs and cows and other animals?&#8230; Empty the cages - Go Vegan
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		<title>by: Mrs. Michael Sabo</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1461536</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2009/01/16/bulletin-board-200901/#comment-1461536</guid>
					<description>Fight Now - if you don't - you will be getting a lot of emails like this one (actual case - received this afternoon):

&quot;Rural Cleansing comes to Price Co. Wisconsin&quot;

  On or about 12:15 pm on January 29th 2009, two men arrived in a black car, one approached the front door, I tapped on the window and indicated to go to the back door.  The taller of the two held out his hand and stated he was Duane Brander.  I refused his hand shake and asked them if they had a warrant and if not, to vacate the property.  Duane responded that I would have to renew my premises registration or face charges; he asked if I was familiar with the case in Clark Co.  I stated I was and that I had not registered the premises, the accomplice indicated that someone else must have done it for me.  I stated that they DATCP had and that I would not register as it was unconstitutional, Duane stated that he was sorry I felt that way and was aware that I was opposed to the program.  His accomplice, who never introduced himself, stated that it must have been registered as a dairy; I informed him I have never had a dairy.  I proceeded to inform them that they were engaged in fraud as I had exhausted administrative process against Dr. Paul McGraw pursuant to USC 5 (556).  Mr. Brander stated Dr. McGraw was his boss and that they were here to inform me that I was to be charged.

  In an ironic twist I had cut short my conversation with Greg Niewendorf to answer the door, should have had him stay on the line for a trip down memory lane.  Throughout the instance they were smiling, reminiscent of the Monsanto representatives involved with Steve Hixon.  The reference to the Clark Co. case only exposed their ignorance, as I had filed brief of Amicus Curiae in support of the defendant and a set of court docs was setting on the table.   I notified a few friends in the area to be on watch.   Then contacted the Sherriff and indicated to him that in order to avoid any conflict during service to contact me in advance and that I wished to be amicable in my relationship with him.  Duane’s statement regarding constitutionality was identical to Robert Fourdraine’s, given years before at a Farm Bureau Convention.  It is nice to know that they have so little regard for the laws that govern this country.

  To those groups I have been working with I would now request their understanding if I am no longer able to commit my time as before. 

Respectfully;

Paul Martin Griepentrog
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Respectfully,

Sharon Sabo
Illinois Independent Consumers and Farmers Association</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fight Now - if you don&#8217;t - you will be getting a lot of emails like this one (actual case - received this afternoon):</p>
<p>&#8220;Rural Cleansing comes to Price Co. Wisconsin&#8221;</p>
<p>  On or about 12:15 pm on January 29th 2009, two men arrived in a black car, one approached the front door, I tapped on the window and indicated to go to the back door.  The taller of the two held out his hand and stated he was Duane Brander.  I refused his hand shake and asked them if they had a warrant and if not, to vacate the property.  Duane responded that I would have to renew my premises registration or face charges; he asked if I was familiar with the case in Clark Co.  I stated I was and that I had not registered the premises, the accomplice indicated that someone else must have done it for me.  I stated that they DATCP had and that I would not register as it was unconstitutional, Duane stated that he was sorry I felt that way and was aware that I was opposed to the program.  His accomplice, who never introduced himself, stated that it must have been registered as a dairy; I informed him I have never had a dairy.  I proceeded to inform them that they were engaged in fraud as I had exhausted administrative process against Dr. Paul McGraw pursuant to USC 5 (556).  Mr. Brander stated Dr. McGraw was his boss and that they were here to inform me that I was to be charged.</p>
<p>  In an ironic twist I had cut short my conversation with Greg Niewendorf to answer the door, should have had him stay on the line for a trip down memory lane.  Throughout the instance they were smiling, reminiscent of the Monsanto representatives involved with Steve Hixon.  The reference to the Clark Co. case only exposed their ignorance, as I had filed brief of Amicus Curiae in support of the defendant and a set of court docs was setting on the table.   I notified a few friends in the area to be on watch.   Then contacted the Sherriff and indicated to him that in order to avoid any conflict during service to contact me in advance and that I wished to be amicable in my relationship with him.  Duane’s statement regarding constitutionality was identical to Robert Fourdraine’s, given years before at a Farm Bureau Convention.  It is nice to know that they have so little regard for the laws that govern this country.</p>
<p>  To those groups I have been working with I would now request their understanding if I am no longer able to commit my time as before. </p>
<p>Respectfully;</p>
<p>Paul Martin Griepentrog<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>Sharon Sabo<br />
Illinois Independent Consumers and Farmers Association
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