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	<title>Comments on: EPA Makes Power Grab - Cow Tax</title>
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		<title>by: kunde</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-makes-power-grab-cow-tax/#comment-1872328</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 20:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Lots of beneficial reading here, many thanks! I was checking on yahoo when I observed your post, I’m going to add your feed to Google Reader, I look forward to a lot more from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of beneficial reading here, many thanks! I was checking on yahoo when I observed your post, I’m going to add your feed to Google Reader, I look forward to a lot more from you.
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		<title>by: eileen</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-makes-power-grab-cow-tax/#comment-1415894</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Whoops, the EPA forgot to list the fees it will charge the states and National Parks per Bison, Elk, Moose, Deer, Antelope, and feral pigs.  Our government agencies and legislators are rapidly and simultaneously attacking the citizenry on all fronts:  The economy, our freedom, food and shelter, jobs (by destroying business), our sovereignty, heck our whole republic.  I fear we will have to choose to either tighten our belts, or gird our loins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, the EPA forgot to list the fees it will charge the states and National Parks per Bison, Elk, Moose, Deer, Antelope, and feral pigs.  Our government agencies and legislators are rapidly and simultaneously attacking the citizenry on all fronts:  The economy, our freedom, food and shelter, jobs (by destroying business), our sovereignty, heck our whole republic.  I fear we will have to choose to either tighten our belts, or gird our loins.
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		<title>by: Paul-Martin:Griepentrog</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-makes-power-grab-cow-tax/#comment-1414446</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Elaine, I represent that remark, Best keep it under cover so as not to give the EPA any more ideas.</description>
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		<title>by: Elaine</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-makes-power-grab-cow-tax/#comment-1412640</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If the EPA would just put a tax on husband farts, they could leave my cows and fields alone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the EPA would just put a tax on husband farts, they could leave my cows and fields alone!
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		<title>by: Monica</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-makes-power-grab-cow-tax/#comment-1412065</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-makes-power-grab-cow-tax/#comment-1412065</guid>
					<description>Speak up to the Obama administration about these taxes.  GO VOTE and put this to the TOP of the global warming ideas!  It will put it on the administration's agenda!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.change.org/ideas/view/stop_the_proposed_epa_taxes_under_anpr&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;text&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speak up to the Obama administration about these taxes.  GO VOTE and put this to the TOP of the global warming ideas!  It will put it on the administration&#8217;s agenda!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.change.org/ideas/view/stop_the_proposed_epa_taxes_under_anpr" rel="nofollow">text</a>
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		<title>by: Valerie</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-makes-power-grab-cow-tax/#comment-1405662</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-makes-power-grab-cow-tax/#comment-1405662</guid>
					<description>If you think these assertions sound far-fetched, just go back and look at history. Read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's &quot;The Gulag Archipelago&quot;...

Absolutely mind-boggling the pace of government regulations put into effect to control and regulate citizens and farmers during the early years of the 20th century, causing famine, death, waves of people, literally everyone that was not in bed with government, being hauled off to prison camps for minor infractions of the &quot;Code&quot;, and in the end the downfall of Russia because of onerous regulations that were absolutely ridiculous, yet people lived in fear, AND DIED, from them. People that were just trying to survive by raising a few chickens...  Millions were put to death, even children on the altar of what is best for society and the common good. 

It appears we are headed there just as swiftly through Sustainable Development, Agenda 21, and the mantra - GO GREEN.

How sad. Our once great nation filled with strong individuals has met its match. Will we rise to the challenge that the peasants in Russia were unable to meet?

We can only hope...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think these assertions sound far-fetched, just go back and look at history. Read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn&#8217;s &#8220;The Gulag Archipelago&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Absolutely mind-boggling the pace of government regulations put into effect to control and regulate citizens and farmers during the early years of the 20th century, causing famine, death, waves of people, literally everyone that was not in bed with government, being hauled off to prison camps for minor infractions of the &#8220;Code&#8221;, and in the end the downfall of Russia because of onerous regulations that were absolutely ridiculous, yet people lived in fear, AND DIED, from them. People that were just trying to survive by raising a few chickens&#8230;  Millions were put to death, even children on the altar of what is best for society and the common good. </p>
<p>It appears we are headed there just as swiftly through Sustainable Development, Agenda 21, and the mantra - GO GREEN.</p>
<p>How sad. Our once great nation filled with strong individuals has met its match. Will we rise to the challenge that the peasants in Russia were unable to meet?</p>
<p>We can only hope&#8230;
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		<title>by: Bhoy</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-makes-power-grab-cow-tax/#comment-1405038</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-makes-power-grab-cow-tax/#comment-1405038</guid>
					<description>I have been posting about this for a month.  Glad to see your site.  This is information might be useful to you.  
Since Al Gore’s movie (classified as “propaganda” by UK courts), AGW hysteria has reached epic proportions.  Carbon dioxide emissions are not a threat to mankind, government is, however, in imposing Draconian regulations to control a non-existent threat.  Al Gore’s premise is based upon incompetent computer modeling not on facts.  The “hockey stick” graph is not accurate.  The “scientists” cooked the books.   CO2 follows warming, it does not lead it.  The polar bear pictures were not the truth, they are fine; the Maldives are not sinking.  In March 2009 there is a 2nd conference of scientists in New York to refute AGW.  

In addition to campaign threats to “bankrupt” the coal industry &amp;#38; impose “cap and trade,”  both of which will impose huge economic burdens on our already overburdened economy, there is in Congress now a move to further cripple business and industry in our country.  The EPA is soliciting comments to regulations controlling CO2 emissions from BUILDINGS.   Search “http://EPA-HQ-OAR-2008-0318-0402”  to get to the government’s website and go to the comments section.  On page 70 of the comments find Comment submitted by William L. Kovacs, Vice President, Environment, Technology &amp;#38; Regulatory Affairs, U.S. Chamber of Commerce  which outlines the massive oppression such legislation will inflict on our economy.  Remember only Western, industrialized nations will bear this burden.  

James A. Peden convincingly demolishes arguments that CO2 causes global warming.  
“http://www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-warming-01.html”

Canada Free Press has good 11-part series on history and politics of the CO2.
“http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3021”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been posting about this for a month.  Glad to see your site.  This is information might be useful to you.<br />
Since Al Gore’s movie (classified as “propaganda” by UK courts), AGW hysteria has reached epic proportions.  Carbon dioxide emissions are not a threat to mankind, government is, however, in imposing Draconian regulations to control a non-existent threat.  Al Gore’s premise is based upon incompetent computer modeling not on facts.  The “hockey stick” graph is not accurate.  The “scientists” cooked the books.   CO2 follows warming, it does not lead it.  The polar bear pictures were not the truth, they are fine; the Maldives are not sinking.  In March 2009 there is a 2nd conference of scientists in New York to refute AGW.  </p>
<p>In addition to campaign threats to “bankrupt” the coal industry &amp; impose “cap and trade,”  both of which will impose huge economic burdens on our already overburdened economy, there is in Congress now a move to further cripple business and industry in our country.  The EPA is soliciting comments to regulations controlling CO2 emissions from BUILDINGS.   Search “http://EPA-HQ-OAR-2008-0318-0402”  to get to the government’s website and go to the comments section.  On page 70 of the comments find Comment submitted by William L. Kovacs, Vice President, Environment, Technology &amp; Regulatory Affairs, U.S. Chamber of Commerce  which outlines the massive oppression such legislation will inflict on our economy.  Remember only Western, industrialized nations will bear this burden.  </p>
<p>James A. Peden convincingly demolishes arguments that CO2 causes global warming.<br />
“http://www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-warming-01.html”</p>
<p>Canada Free Press has good 11-part series on history and politics of the CO2.<br />
“http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3021”
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		<title>by: walterj</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-makes-power-grab-cow-tax/#comment-1404672</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-makes-power-grab-cow-tax/#comment-1404672</guid>
					<description>Bruce, see the link above (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wyfb.org/NewsFeeds.aspx?file=Links/NWS281b9276fe1f.htm&amp;ID=530&amp;from=front&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here again&lt;/a&gt;) where you can read more about it. They discuss the costs. In the Federal Registry the USDA comments discuss:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;i&gt;If GHG emissions from agricultural sources are regulated under the CAA, numerous farming operations that currently are not subject to the costly and time-consuming Title V permitting process would, for the first time, become covered entities. Even very small agricultural operations would meet a 100-tons-per-year emissions threshold. For example, dairy facilities with over 25 cows, beef cattle operations of over 50 cattle, swine operations with over 200 hogs, and farms with over 500 acres of corn may need to get a Title V permit. It is neither efficient nor practical to require permitting and reporting of GHG emissions from farms of this size. Excluding only the 200,000 largest commercial farms, our agricultural landscape is comprised of 1.9 million farms with an average value of production of $25,589 on 271 acres. These operations simply could not bear the regulatory compliance costs that would be involved.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I suspect that the Title V permitting costs were used to to calculate that per animal tax.

Very important: realize that this is not a tax on cows, pigs or other livestock. This is a 'tax' on any emissions. According to the EPA documents they will gain the power to regulate your home, your apartment, your corn field, your rice paddies, your livestock and any other source of greenhouse gases (GHG). Yes, I said corn and rice field. Any crops that produce or disturb the soils to till may produce GHG and fall under Title V regulations.

You say, well, I don't have 200 pigs or 500 acres of corn field. Perhaps, but do you like to eat? Consumer food prices will be driven up.

You say, well, I buy from local farmers with less than those minimums. Perhaps, but do you really think those minimums will stay the threshold? No, the EPA will continue to expand it's powers.

Then remember the little bit about homes... They want to regulate your home. Forget having a wood stove. Forget cooking over the grill in the summer. You will have to make your house meet EPA standards, pay fees to get it inspected and approved or have it condemned. Want to talk housing crisis? Very few homes in America will meet the standards. This means all those homes will get dumped on the market for pennies on the dollar. That will create a new round of foreclosures and depress real estate prices further. The EPA is throwing gas on the fire.

This is far beyond a mere $20 per pig tax. Go comment now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, see the link above (<a href="http://www.wyfb.org/NewsFeeds.aspx?file=Links/NWS281b9276fe1f.htm&#038;ID=530&#038;from=front" rel="nofollow">here again</a>) where you can read more about it. They discuss the costs. In the Federal Registry the USDA comments discuss:</p>
<blockquote><p><small><i>If GHG emissions from agricultural sources are regulated under the CAA, numerous farming operations that currently are not subject to the costly and time-consuming Title V permitting process would, for the first time, become covered entities. Even very small agricultural operations would meet a 100-tons-per-year emissions threshold. For example, dairy facilities with over 25 cows, beef cattle operations of over 50 cattle, swine operations with over 200 hogs, and farms with over 500 acres of corn may need to get a Title V permit. It is neither efficient nor practical to require permitting and reporting of GHG emissions from farms of this size. Excluding only the 200,000 largest commercial farms, our agricultural landscape is comprised of 1.9 million farms with an average value of production of $25,589 on 271 acres. These operations simply could not bear the regulatory compliance costs that would be involved.</i></small></p></blockquote>
<p>I suspect that the Title V permitting costs were used to to calculate that per animal tax.</p>
<p>Very important: realize that this is not a tax on cows, pigs or other livestock. This is a &#8216;tax&#8217; on any emissions. According to the EPA documents they will gain the power to regulate your home, your apartment, your corn field, your rice paddies, your livestock and any other source of greenhouse gases (GHG). Yes, I said corn and rice field. Any crops that produce or disturb the soils to till may produce GHG and fall under Title V regulations.</p>
<p>You say, well, I don&#8217;t have 200 pigs or 500 acres of corn field. Perhaps, but do you like to eat? Consumer food prices will be driven up.</p>
<p>You say, well, I buy from local farmers with less than those minimums. Perhaps, but do you really think those minimums will stay the threshold? No, the EPA will continue to expand it&#8217;s powers.</p>
<p>Then remember the little bit about homes&#8230; They want to regulate your home. Forget having a wood stove. Forget cooking over the grill in the summer. You will have to make your house meet EPA standards, pay fees to get it inspected and approved or have it condemned. Want to talk housing crisis? Very few homes in America will meet the standards. This means all those homes will get dumped on the market for pennies on the dollar. That will create a new round of foreclosures and depress real estate prices further. The EPA is throwing gas on the fire.</p>
<p>This is far beyond a mere $20 per pig tax. Go comment now.
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		<title>by: bruce king</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/11/27/epa-makes-power-grab-cow-tax/#comment-1404663</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You've mentioned specific amounts &quot;20 per pig and 87.50 per cow&quot; -- and there is no mention of either of those numbers in the EPA document.  Where did those numbers come from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve mentioned specific amounts &#8220;20 per pig and 87.50 per cow&#8221; &#8212; and there is no mention of either of those numbers in the EPA document.  Where did those numbers come from?
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