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	<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/08/01/bulletin-board-200808/</link>
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		<title>by: Great is the Governor</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/08/01/bulletin-board-200808/#comment-1511593</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 05:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Time to pickp those phones and make call.</description>
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		<title>by: LEE</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/08/01/bulletin-board-200808/#comment-1395141</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>#30 aint it interesting that the spokesmans name is &quot;Riggall&quot;? when they admit all the machines a rigged was it done by Mr.Rigg-all? LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30 aint it interesting that the spokesmans name is &#8220;Riggall&#8221;? when they admit all the machines a rigged was it done by Mr.Rigg-all? LOL
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		<title>by: Snazy snezy</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/08/01/bulletin-board-200808/#comment-1395056</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;b&gt;Oh and our voting machines are rigged too&lt;/b&gt;

Diebold, maker of voting machines comes clean.

“...According to spokesman Chris Riggall, a &quot;critical programming error that can &lt;b&gt;cause votes to be dropped&lt;/b&gt; while being electronically transferred from memory cards to a central tallying point&quot; has been part of the software for ten years. The flaw is on both optical scan and touchscreen machines, and while Mr. Riggall asserts that the logic error probably didn't ruin any elections... the outfit's president has confessed to being &quot;distressed&quot; about the ordeal.”
 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/diebold-comes-clean-admits-that-its-e-voting-machines-are-fault/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;text&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://techdirt.com/articles/20080822/0352532064.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;text&lt;/a&gt;

Please note Diebold's primary business before making voting machines was making ATMS. Interesting they had no problems with errors on that more complicated task.

There is also speculation that the US government has back doors into windows operating systems.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://cryptome.org/nsa-ms-spy.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;text&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infiltrated.net/?p=91&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;text&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;text&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/5/5263/1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;text&lt;/a&gt;

But then Jeff Dean would be sure that there was no cause for anyone to take a close look at ATMs
“Jeff Dean, Senior Vice-President and Senior Programmer at Global Election Systems (GES), the company purchased by Diebold in 2002 which became Diebold Election Systems, ,b.was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft for planting back doors in software he created for ATMs,/b. using, according to court documents, a &quot;high degree of sophistication&quot; to evade detection over a period of two years[7]. In addition to Dean, GES employed a number of other convicted felons in senior positions, including a fraudulent securities trader and a drug trafficker.” 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Election_Solutions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;text&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Oh and our voting machines are rigged too</b></p>
<p>Diebold, maker of voting machines comes clean.</p>
<p>“&#8230;According to spokesman Chris Riggall, a &#8220;critical programming error that can <b>cause votes to be dropped</b> while being electronically transferred from memory cards to a central tallying point&#8221; has been part of the software for ten years. The flaw is on both optical scan and touchscreen machines, and while Mr. Riggall asserts that the logic error probably didn&#8217;t ruin any elections&#8230; the outfit&#8217;s president has confessed to being &#8220;distressed&#8221; about the ordeal.”<br />
 <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/23/diebold-comes-clean-admits-that-its-e-voting-machines-are-fault/" rel="nofollow">text</a></p>
<p><a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20080822/0352532064.shtml" rel="nofollow">text</a></p>
<p>Please note Diebold&#8217;s primary business before making voting machines was making ATMS. Interesting they had no problems with errors on that more complicated task.</p>
<p>There is also speculation that the US government has back doors into windows operating systems.<br />
<a href="http://cryptome.org/nsa-ms-spy.htm" rel="nofollow">text</a><br />
<a href="http://www.infiltrated.net/?p=91" rel="nofollow">text</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY" rel="nofollow">text</a><br />
<a href="http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/5/5263/1.html" rel="nofollow">text</a></p>
<p>But then Jeff Dean would be sure that there was no cause for anyone to take a close look at ATMs<br />
“Jeff Dean, Senior Vice-President and Senior Programmer at Global Election Systems (GES), the company purchased by Diebold in 2002 which became Diebold Election Systems, ,b.was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft for planting back doors in software he created for ATMs,/b. using, according to court documents, a &#8220;high degree of sophistication&#8221; to evade detection over a period of two years[7]. In addition to Dean, GES employed a number of other convicted felons in senior positions, including a fraudulent securities trader and a drug trafficker.” </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Election_Solutions" rel="nofollow">text</a>
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		<title>by: Lorene</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/08/01/bulletin-board-200808/#comment-1395020</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I just got my August Western Horseman mag and in the letters section the only ones posted were all against NAIS, commenting on the NAIS article from the June issue.  Hopefully this is the start of a wake-up call to the thousands of horse owners who are unaware of how NAIS will affect them.  We need to keep hitting the web-sites with blogs and the magazines with the information about NAIS (including the dis-information from the USDA).
Another small step. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got my August Western Horseman mag and in the letters section the only ones posted were all against NAIS, commenting on the NAIS article from the June issue.  Hopefully this is the start of a wake-up call to the thousands of horse owners who are unaware of how NAIS will affect them.  We need to keep hitting the web-sites with blogs and the magazines with the information about NAIS (including the dis-information from the USDA).<br />
Another small step. . .
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		<title>by: The Phantom</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/08/01/bulletin-board-200808/#comment-1394991</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Two corrections on comment I just made. Go to campaignforliberty and hit on &quot;rally for the republic&quot; at the top; takes you to all info and has the High Tide video there so you can see it. I had suggested a speaker on Nais; maybe one of the speakers will incorporate it into their speech... there is a &quot;place&quot; for someone, unannounced...on the list of speakers for the final day...everyone is hoping it is the U.S. swimmer who won 8 gold medals...his trainer is a Ron Paul fan.... I misspelled Minneapolis....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two corrections on comment I just made. Go to campaignforliberty and hit on &#8220;rally for the republic&#8221; at the top; takes you to all info and has the High Tide video there so you can see it. I had suggested a speaker on Nais; maybe one of the speakers will incorporate it into their speech&#8230; there is a &#8220;place&#8221; for someone, unannounced&#8230;on the list of speakers for the final day&#8230;everyone is hoping it is the U.S. swimmer who won 8 gold medals&#8230;his trainer is a Ron Paul fan&#8230;. I misspelled Minneapolis&#8230;.
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		<title>by: The Phantom</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/08/01/bulletin-board-200808/#comment-1394990</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>What do you do when you are a presidential candidate, and the corporately owned news media does a &quot;black out&quot; on you every way that they can? Answer:You hold your own &quot;convention&quot; across the river from St. Paul, Minn. at the Target Center in Minneapolia, Minn. Aug. 31 - Sept. 2nd. Look at what will greet all the people attending the Republican convention in a few days at:  campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=402  (and then change 402 to 391...to see more info) At the Mall of the America, the video &quot;High Tide&quot; is running every 8 minutes 24/7 on 100 t.v.monitors at this Mall... Big bill boards and signs are at strategic places in St.Paul. To see the list of speakers for the Sept. 2nd final day of the &quot;Rally for the Republic&quot;..go to campaignforliberty and hit on the &quot;Rally for Liberty&quot; at the top of the page... There are 3 principles of freedom (liberty): individualism, the right to own private property, and free enterprise...to buy and sell without interference. Nais violates two of the three, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you do when you are a presidential candidate, and the corporately owned news media does a &#8220;black out&#8221; on you every way that they can? Answer:You hold your own &#8220;convention&#8221; across the river from St. Paul, Minn. at the Target Center in Minneapolia, Minn. Aug. 31 - Sept. 2nd. Look at what will greet all the people attending the Republican convention in a few days at:  campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=402  (and then change 402 to 391&#8230;to see more info) At the Mall of the America, the video &#8220;High Tide&#8221; is running every 8 minutes 24/7 on 100 t.v.monitors at this Mall&#8230; Big bill boards and signs are at strategic places in St.Paul. To see the list of speakers for the Sept. 2nd final day of the &#8220;Rally for the Republic&#8221;..go to campaignforliberty and hit on the &#8220;Rally for Liberty&#8221; at the top of the page&#8230; There are 3 principles of freedom (liberty): individualism, the right to own private property, and free enterprise&#8230;to buy and sell without interference. Nais violates two of the three, for sure.
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		<title>by: The Phantom</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/08/01/bulletin-board-200808/#comment-1394979</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I posted this on the 24th: I can see it, but it does not show my comment at the comments section. It is important; so once again.Real ID and Nais have much in common. There is an excellent article by Rep. Sam Rohrer of Pennsylvania, titled: &quot;Real ID:Connecting the dots to an International ID&quot;.  Go to  newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/guest128.htm  (put www in front)...he states; &quot;a terribly invasive tracking system, largely without public knowledge or approval&quot;...(sounds familiar, huh?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted this on the 24th: I can see it, but it does not show my comment at the comments section. It is important; so once again.Real ID and Nais have much in common. There is an excellent article by Rep. Sam Rohrer of Pennsylvania, titled: &#8220;Real ID:Connecting the dots to an International ID&#8221;.  Go to  newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/guest128.htm  (put www in front)&#8230;he states; &#8220;a terribly invasive tracking system, largely without public knowledge or approval&#8221;&#8230;(sounds familiar, huh?)
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		<title>by: nick</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/08/01/bulletin-board-200808/#comment-1394886</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>western livestock journal august 18 page 10.peterson says the COOL record keeping requirements placed on producers are few and easy to follow. next paragraph says the USDA intends to have the ability to audit individual producers to ensure their compliance and to trace meat from the grocery store all the way to the source. same page differant article,NAIS is voluntary but gives producer &quot;safe harbor&quot; for COOL complince. so guess what,it will be nais or a cool audit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>western livestock journal august 18 page 10.peterson says the COOL record keeping requirements placed on producers are few and easy to follow. next paragraph says the USDA intends to have the ability to audit individual producers to ensure their compliance and to trace meat from the grocery store all the way to the source. same page differant article,NAIS is voluntary but gives producer &#8220;safe harbor&#8221; for COOL complince. so guess what,it will be nais or a cool audit.
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		<title>by: The Phantom</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/08/01/bulletin-board-200808/#comment-1394861</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Something that is a good idea to go see, if you have it available in a theater near you, is  iousathemovie.com/ (put the www in front)..It will only be shown one day, Aug. 21st 7 p.m. central...it is about the 9 1/2 trillion dollar debt the U.S. has...has David Walker, our former U.S. Comptroller General involved in it...when you pull up this website, it has a &quot;trailer&quot; you can view, to see what it is about. They want comments after people see the movie. You can find theater listings at the website.It was mentioned on Glen Becks show, and someone commented that it was &quot;scarey&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that is a good idea to go see, if you have it available in a theater near you, is  iousathemovie.com/ (put the www in front)..It will only be shown one day, Aug. 21st 7 p.m. central&#8230;it is about the 9 1/2 trillion dollar debt the U.S. has&#8230;has David Walker, our former U.S. Comptroller General involved in it&#8230;when you pull up this website, it has a &#8220;trailer&#8221; you can view, to see what it is about. They want comments after people see the movie. You can find theater listings at the website.It was mentioned on Glen Becks show, and someone commented that it was &#8220;scarey&#8221;&#8230;
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		<title>by: Bamidbar</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/08/01/bulletin-board-200808/#comment-1394835</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>NAU &amp;#38; Ag summary is up at:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://nonaiswa.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NoNAISWA&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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