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	<title>Comments on: USDA Sued To Stop NAIS</title>
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		<title>by: Misfit4Peace</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/07/15/usda-sued-to-stop-nais/#comment-1394339</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am a member of the Revolution Army...We are people who believe in the Constitution, in States Freedom, in God Given Rights, and so on.
I urge you, the famers, to band together and join before its to late.
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We are not crazy if that's what your thinking. We have been fighting government for a long time. And we need your help, and you need the help of those willing to fight.
Google and YouTube Ron Paul. Also check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.DailyPaul&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Daily Paul&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a member of the Revolution Army&#8230;We are people who believe in the Constitution, in States Freedom, in God Given Rights, and so on.<br />
I urge you, the famers, to band together and join before its to late.<br />
<a href="http://www.thelibertycommittee.org" rel="nofollow">The Liberty Committee</a><br />
Break free from government corruption<a href="http://WashingtonYoureFired.com/RestoreTheRepublic.html" rel="nofollow">Restore The Republic</a><br />
We are not crazy if that&#8217;s what your thinking. We have been fighting government for a long time. And we need your help, and you need the help of those willing to fight.<br />
Google and YouTube Ron Paul. Also check out <a href="http://www.DailyPaul" rel="nofollow">Daily Paul</a>
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		<title>by: Snazy snezy</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/07/15/usda-sued-to-stop-nais/#comment-1394301</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Her is another take on the fight against NAIS.  I do not think I have seen anyone post about this. 

The USDA is claiming that NAIS will promote Food Safety and Disease Prevention. The proposed regulations will not increase Food Safety but will actually cause the USDA to turn from food safety to revenue generation. A study of asset forfeiture's impact on police procedure. &lt;a href=&quot;Drug Enforcement's Double-Edged Sword: An Assessment of Asset Forfeiture Programs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Drug Enforcements Double-Edged Sword: An Assessment of Asset Forfieture Programs&lt;/a&gt; said the policy forces law enforcement agencies to subordinate justice to profit.

THE EFFECTS OF FORFEITURE:
A simple clerical error in Medicare billing can subject a physician to a full audit of his medical practice and to forfeiture of all of his assets. This epidemic of witch-hunting in medicine separates doctors from the practice of medicine and makes them the adversaries of their patients. It began in 1992 with a groundbreaking case of Medicare fraud in which a testing action once standard among health care providers was deemed fraudulent. 
The U.S. Attorney's Office charged that La Jolla-based National Health Laboratories, one of the nation's largest medical laboratory chains, conducted unneeded medical tests on patients to inflate lab charges....NME agreed to pay the government more than $362 million, and a former company executive faces up to 10 years in prison. Medicare regulations occupy hundreds of thousands of pages, and to understand them a doctor would have to relinquish medicine for a new career in Medicare law. Is it too expensive to be a primary care doctor?  Yes and it results in a growing shortage of primary care physicians. (Vets take note)

Under forfeiture statutes, innocent owners of property or money, never charged with a crime, still must prove their innocence through complex proceedings. .  Under civil asset forfeiture laws, the simple possession of cash, with no drugs or other contraband, can be considered evidence of criminal activity. [premise id is a license to search without cause]

Results from the Asset Forfeiture study above revealed a concentration on seizing real property with a high value. In addition, real property seizures are preplanned and commonly made under the controversial facilitation statute.

EXAMPLES FROM THE STUDY:
When asked why a search warrant would not be served on a suspect known to have resale quantities of contraband one officer responded:
&quot;Because that would just give us a bunch of dope and the hassle of having to book him (the suspect). We've got all the dope we need in the property room, just stick to rounding up cases with big money and stay away from warrants.&quot;

In another case officers were instructed to wait until most of a large shipment was converted into cash. 

This perversion of law enforcement priorities was the subject of an empirical study &quot;Efficiency is measured by the amount of money seized rather than impact on drug trafficking.&quot; , &lt;a href=&quot;Drug Enforcement's Double-Edged Sword: An Assessment of Asset Forfeiture Programs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Drug Enforcements Double-Edged Sword: An Assessment of Asset Forfieture Programs&lt;/a&gt; described forfeiture as a &quot;dysfunctional policy&quot; that forces law enforcement agencies to subordinate justice to profit.

Is there evidence that the USDA is turning away from Food Safety? 

Government testing for bovine tuberculosis in California from 10,576 tests in 1995 to 5,100 in 1994 to 1,425 in 1999, USDA border checks turned over to Chihuahuan Cattle Producers' Association despite the high prevalence of bovine tuberculosis in Mexican cattle. Dr. Logan... said, “the disease is extremely rare in U.S. herds. How- ever, more TB-lesioned cattle are being detected at slaughter, and ear tags indicate that many of these animals are of Mexican origin.” Prior to 1994, only eight wild white-tailed or mule deer had been reported with bovine TB in North America To date, 397 deer and two elk were confirmed with disease.
“...it frustrates me and many of my members when we are told by our supervisors... not to write non-compliance reports...the agency’s databases may not contain accurate information... because of pressure being applied not to write them up for violations....” 
Testimony Of Stanley Painter, Chairman National Joint Council of Food Inspection Local Unions, during the Hallmark investigation. &lt;a href=&quot;http://domesticpolicy.oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1870&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Domestic Policy Oversight Hearings on Hallmark&lt;/a&gt;
Will new regulations mean the USDA will ignore factory farms owned by multinational corporations and illegals with livestock smuggled from Mexico and target family farms for forfeiture?  Will the food safety be forgotten while the USDA chases paperwork and tag errors?

An example of selective enforcement of the proposed NAIS can be seen in Australia.  Due to severe drought, ranchers move cattle from one location to another to best care for the animals.  But tags numbers are based on location not on ownership.
.”My only crime is running two properties.  I could not guarantee that cattle tagged that day did not leave the property.”  “The DPI admitted in court that utilizing the same NLIS ear tag on different properties under one management/ownership,...is common .”

“I am also intrigued by the DPI’s selective action and prosecution.  DPI’...has been contacted in relation to much more serious breaches of the regulations e.g no NVD and no NLIS on movement of cattle, and he/ the DPI/the Minister have chosen to take no action.”

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The following article shows how Federal investigation of Medicare fraud is affecting health care.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her is another take on the fight against NAIS.  I do not think I have seen anyone post about this. </p>
<p>The USDA is claiming that NAIS will promote Food Safety and Disease Prevention. The proposed regulations will not increase Food Safety but will actually cause the USDA to turn from food safety to revenue generation. A study of asset forfeiture&#8217;s impact on police procedure. <a href="Drug Enforcement's Double-Edged Sword: An Assessment of Asset Forfeiture Programs" rel="nofollow">Drug Enforcements Double-Edged Sword: An Assessment of Asset Forfieture Programs</a> said the policy forces law enforcement agencies to subordinate justice to profit.</p>
<p>THE EFFECTS OF FORFEITURE:<br />
A simple clerical error in Medicare billing can subject a physician to a full audit of his medical practice and to forfeiture of all of his assets. This epidemic of witch-hunting in medicine separates doctors from the practice of medicine and makes them the adversaries of their patients. It began in 1992 with a groundbreaking case of Medicare fraud in which a testing action once standard among health care providers was deemed fraudulent.<br />
The U.S. Attorney&#8217;s Office charged that La Jolla-based National Health Laboratories, one of the nation&#8217;s largest medical laboratory chains, conducted unneeded medical tests on patients to inflate lab charges&#8230;.NME agreed to pay the government more than $362 million, and a former company executive faces up to 10 years in prison. Medicare regulations occupy hundreds of thousands of pages, and to understand them a doctor would have to relinquish medicine for a new career in Medicare law. Is it too expensive to be a primary care doctor?  Yes and it results in a growing shortage of primary care physicians. (Vets take note)</p>
<p>Under forfeiture statutes, innocent owners of property or money, never charged with a crime, still must prove their innocence through complex proceedings. .  Under civil asset forfeiture laws, the simple possession of cash, with no drugs or other contraband, can be considered evidence of criminal activity. [premise id is a license to search without cause]</p>
<p>Results from the Asset Forfeiture study above revealed a concentration on seizing real property with a high value. In addition, real property seizures are preplanned and commonly made under the controversial facilitation statute.</p>
<p>EXAMPLES FROM THE STUDY:<br />
When asked why a search warrant would not be served on a suspect known to have resale quantities of contraband one officer responded:<br />
&#8220;Because that would just give us a bunch of dope and the hassle of having to book him (the suspect). We&#8217;ve got all the dope we need in the property room, just stick to rounding up cases with big money and stay away from warrants.&#8221;</p>
<p>In another case officers were instructed to wait until most of a large shipment was converted into cash. </p>
<p>This perversion of law enforcement priorities was the subject of an empirical study &#8220;Efficiency is measured by the amount of money seized rather than impact on drug trafficking.&#8221; , <a href="Drug Enforcement's Double-Edged Sword: An Assessment of Asset Forfeiture Programs" rel="nofollow">Drug Enforcements Double-Edged Sword: An Assessment of Asset Forfieture Programs</a> described forfeiture as a &#8220;dysfunctional policy&#8221; that forces law enforcement agencies to subordinate justice to profit.</p>
<p>Is there evidence that the USDA is turning away from Food Safety? </p>
<p>Government testing for bovine tuberculosis in California from 10,576 tests in 1995 to 5,100 in 1994 to 1,425 in 1999, USDA border checks turned over to Chihuahuan Cattle Producers&#8217; Association despite the high prevalence of bovine tuberculosis in Mexican cattle. Dr. Logan&#8230; said, “the disease is extremely rare in U.S. herds. How- ever, more TB-lesioned cattle are being detected at slaughter, and ear tags indicate that many of these animals are of Mexican origin.” Prior to 1994, only eight wild white-tailed or mule deer had been reported with bovine TB in North America To date, 397 deer and two elk were confirmed with disease.<br />
“&#8230;it frustrates me and many of my members when we are told by our supervisors&#8230; not to write non-compliance reports&#8230;the agency’s databases may not contain accurate information&#8230; because of pressure being applied not to write them up for violations&#8230;.”<br />
Testimony Of Stanley Painter, Chairman National Joint Council of Food Inspection Local Unions, during the Hallmark investigation. <a href="http://domesticpolicy.oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1870" rel="nofollow">Domestic Policy Oversight Hearings on Hallmark</a><br />
Will new regulations mean the USDA will ignore factory farms owned by multinational corporations and illegals with livestock smuggled from Mexico and target family farms for forfeiture?  Will the food safety be forgotten while the USDA chases paperwork and tag errors?</p>
<p>An example of selective enforcement of the proposed NAIS can be seen in Australia.  Due to severe drought, ranchers move cattle from one location to another to best care for the animals.  But tags numbers are based on location not on ownership.<br />
.”My only crime is running two properties.  I could not guarantee that cattle tagged that day did not leave the property.”  “The DPI admitted in court that utilizing the same NLIS ear tag on different properties under one management/ownership,&#8230;is common .”</p>
<p>“I am also intrigued by the DPI’s selective action and prosecution.  DPI’&#8230;has been contacted in relation to much more serious breaches of the regulations e.g no NVD and no NLIS on movement of cattle, and he/ the DPI/the Minister have chosen to take no action.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fear.org/" rel="nofollow">FEAR.ORG</a><br />
<a href="http://www.allbusiness.com/north-america/united-states-california-metro-areas/483383-1.html" rel="nofollow">AllBusiness.COM</a><br />
<a href="http://www.allbusiness.com/services/health-services-offices-clinics-doctors/4354043-1.html" rel="nofollow">AllBusiness.COM</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=171184" rel="nofollow">ncjrs.gov</a><br />
<a href="www.tahc.state.tx.us/news/pr/2002/302TBMx.pdf" rel="nofollow">tahc.state.tx</a><br />
<a href="www.ers.usda.gov/publications/Agoutlook/june2001/AO282d.pdf" rel="nofollow">ers.usda.gov.publications</a><br />
<a href="cetulare.ucdavis.edu/newsletterfiles/Beef_Round_Up3482.pdf" rel="nofollow">cetulare.ucdavis.edu</a><br />
<a href="www.cdfa.ca.gov/ahfss/Animal_Health/pdfs/Tb_in_California_2006.pdf" rel="nofollow">cdfa.ca.gov</a><br />
<a href="www.nzfsa.govt.nz/science/riskprofiles/FW0320_Mbovis_in_meat_final_May_2006.pdf" rel="nofollow">nzfsa.govt</a><br />
<a href="http://www.agmates.com/blog/2008/06/30/persecuted-nsw-vic-farmer-speaks-out/" rel="nofollow">agmates.com</a></p>
<p>The following article shows how Federal investigation of Medicare fraud is affecting health care.<br />
<a href="http://www.allbusiness.com/management/3586487-1.html" rel="nofollow">allbusiness.com</a>
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		<title>by: Sue Karber</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/07/15/usda-sued-to-stop-nais/#comment-1394290</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Nick,  yes R-Calf has proven their worth in this fight.   Some might not realize when they take on the packers or BSE or fight like the dickens to stop the premise id or file to stop imports with TB we all win.  The little guy with home grown meat for own use benefits right along with the mom and pop cattle operations.  The real winner though is the consumer.  Every consumer should join R-Calf and every person even if they only have one chicken.  They have a choice to either grow their own or buy from a local grower.   R-Calf has like Mrs. Sabo says put their feet to the pavement done their homework and are fully invested in winning.   They have done their research and proven they can be trusted and will use my donations and support to work for me and also work with others all the time.   They often form a group effort whether to file a suit or hit congress with something like property rights.   They are truly invested in the fight.  
Consumers need education in what they have at stake.   Articles like Walter was featured in Locally grown food, &lt;blockquote&gt;even fully cooked meals, can be delivered to your door. A share in a cow raised in a nearby field can be brought to you, ready for the freezer — a phenomenon dubbed cow pooling. There is pork pooling as well. At Sugar Mountain Farm in Vermont, the demand for a half or whole rare-breed pig is so great that people will not be seeing pork until the late fall.&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/22/dining/22local.html?_r=1&amp;ref=us&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;NY Times&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
helps but we all need to educate consumers what is at stake and why eat local and USA.   
Stopping NAIS  does not mean throwing money at anyone who makes a statement or promise.  A fool is soon parted from their money just ask all those who did not read the fine print.   Support must be targeted and effective.   Then give til it hurts to those who have proven they can be trusted.   It will take us all to really fund all the suits that need to be filed but they must be real and out to win.   The real battle is door to door, neighbor to neighbor and local.   EDUCATE your community.  For me I am very careful where I put my limited dollars since I want them to count and get us a bunch of wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick,  yes R-Calf has proven their worth in this fight.   Some might not realize when they take on the packers or BSE or fight like the dickens to stop the premise id or file to stop imports with TB we all win.  The little guy with home grown meat for own use benefits right along with the mom and pop cattle operations.  The real winner though is the consumer.  Every consumer should join R-Calf and every person even if they only have one chicken.  They have a choice to either grow their own or buy from a local grower.   R-Calf has like Mrs. Sabo says put their feet to the pavement done their homework and are fully invested in winning.   They have done their research and proven they can be trusted and will use my donations and support to work for me and also work with others all the time.   They often form a group effort whether to file a suit or hit congress with something like property rights.   They are truly invested in the fight.<br />
Consumers need education in what they have at stake.   Articles like Walter was featured in Locally grown food,<br />
<blockquote>even fully cooked meals, can be delivered to your door. A share in a cow raised in a nearby field can be brought to you, ready for the freezer — a phenomenon dubbed cow pooling. There is pork pooling as well. At Sugar Mountain Farm in Vermont, the demand for a half or whole rare-breed pig is so great that people will not be seeing pork until the late fall.<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/22/dining/22local.html?_r=1&#038;ref=us&#038;oref=slogin">NY Times</a></p></blockquote>
<p>helps but we all need to educate consumers what is at stake and why eat local and USA.<br />
Stopping NAIS  does not mean throwing money at anyone who makes a statement or promise.  A fool is soon parted from their money just ask all those who did not read the fine print.   Support must be targeted and effective.   Then give til it hurts to those who have proven they can be trusted.   It will take us all to really fund all the suits that need to be filed but they must be real and out to win.   The real battle is door to door, neighbor to neighbor and local.   EDUCATE your community.  For me I am very careful where I put my limited dollars since I want them to count and get us a bunch of wins.
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		<title>by: Mrs. Michael Sabo</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/07/15/usda-sued-to-stop-nais/#comment-1394281</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>After posting my comment I was notified that I could see which attorneys were able to practice in D.C. and the admission requirements for the D.C. Bar,  which I did. Mr. Stimpert is not &quot;listed&quot; so I should have researched my information before asking the question. 

&quot;We&quot; (IICFA) cannot make a statement based on what others will do, just keep moving forward. Sometimes the footwork is the most important factor in sucess, I am glad we have feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After posting my comment I was notified that I could see which attorneys were able to practice in D.C. and the admission requirements for the D.C. Bar,  which I did. Mr. Stimpert is not &#8220;listed&#8221; so I should have researched my information before asking the question. </p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8221; (IICFA) cannot make a statement based on what others will do, just keep moving forward. Sometimes the footwork is the most important factor in sucess, I am glad we have feet.
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		<title>by: nick</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/07/15/usda-sued-to-stop-nais/#comment-1394271</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>sue,i have been proud member of r-calf for a while now.they are a great group and i have been promoting them on this site at least 2 years now.walter even ask me about my message back then saying it was the same every time,and it was,join r-calf and we can beat this nais.it seems there are 3 groups that are willing to take on the feds,r-calf,zanoni,farm to consumer.they need to get together and share their ideas,mabe even form a common front,dont you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sue,i have been proud member of r-calf for a while now.they are a great group and i have been promoting them on this site at least 2 years now.walter even ask me about my message back then saying it was the same every time,and it was,join r-calf and we can beat this nais.it seems there are 3 groups that are willing to take on the feds,r-calf,zanoni,farm to consumer.they need to get together and share their ideas,mabe even form a common front,dont you think?
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		<title>by: Sue Karber</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/07/15/usda-sued-to-stop-nais/#comment-1394259</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>We recalled our donation because it was based on a lie and in my opinion so much more.   We think hard before investing in things and here is why.   My dad went back at 40 and got his law degree and did so because he got so tired of hiring lawyers that cut his throat and got paid for it.    As a client he had to trust his lawyer but over and over his lawyers  mistakes and mis-steps legally sold him out so he became a lawyer  so he could win and he did win when he invested in protecting himself or business.   Think about it....Mary Zanoni used another lawyer to file her suit and she was not out begging for funds over and over....she invested in her fight for her freedom and we all benefited.   Right on the heels we get this mailing of lawsuit labeled filed with appeal for funds.   Playing on Mary's success.      R-Calf has fought and won and had to refight to rewin the original and puts the lawsuit in action before asking for funds to help.   Clear difference with a false news releaseand as yet unknown sponsor as of FRIDAY, four days after mailing.    Had the press release been labeled mailed not filed I would have waited to donate until it was filed.   Now the members of Farm to Consumer are like my dad,  honest and dedicated but what happened to cut their throats....  I think I will stick to those who have proven they can be trusted and have a track record.    This is the second time Harold and I have been burned by  &quot;LAWYERS that were suppose to be for us but opps a mistake &quot;  instead cut our throats and did more for the opposition than can be tallied.    
 
There are so many really working for NONAIS we can win but stick with those who have proven themselves and support real actions.    R-Calf is a great one  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.r-calfusa.com/index.html &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;R-CALF &lt;/a&gt;-     make your donations specific to no nais.   Doreen is on that committee.  You know she is fully invested and true to her word.    R-CALF's focus on shifting nais funds to animals disease programs since present traceback works and nais does nothing for prevention is brilliant.     They have already cleared out the enemies within and are thriving because they did.    
  
Mary Zanoni is a lawyer and small-farm activist in rural upstate New York. She publishes the Farm for Life Newsletter, a quarterly print publication covering the National Animal Identification System and related issues. Subscriptions are $25 per year, payable by check to Farm for Life, P.O. Box 501, Canton, NY 13617.&quot;


ARAPA
JOIN ARAPA NOW! see membership page for membership applications and information! HUNDREDS have already joined - lawyers, retired congressmen, ...
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arkansasanimalproducers.com/index.html &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ARAPA&lt;/a&gt;-   I have been a long time member  so have many from other states.  
Yes we want many many real lawsuits to stop NAIS and they have to be real and done right....like Mary's,  Like R-Calf's suits.  We need lawyers that are up for the challenge and really in it to win.   
That is my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We recalled our donation because it was based on a lie and in my opinion so much more.   We think hard before investing in things and here is why.   My dad went back at 40 and got his law degree and did so because he got so tired of hiring lawyers that cut his throat and got paid for it.    As a client he had to trust his lawyer but over and over his lawyers  mistakes and mis-steps legally sold him out so he became a lawyer  so he could win and he did win when he invested in protecting himself or business.   Think about it&#8230;.Mary Zanoni used another lawyer to file her suit and she was not out begging for funds over and over&#8230;.she invested in her fight for her freedom and we all benefited.   Right on the heels we get this mailing of lawsuit labeled filed with appeal for funds.   Playing on Mary&#8217;s success.      R-Calf has fought and won and had to refight to rewin the original and puts the lawsuit in action before asking for funds to help.   Clear difference with a false news releaseand as yet unknown sponsor as of FRIDAY, four days after mailing.    Had the press release been labeled mailed not filed I would have waited to donate until it was filed.   Now the members of Farm to Consumer are like my dad,  honest and dedicated but what happened to cut their throats&#8230;.  I think I will stick to those who have proven they can be trusted and have a track record.    This is the second time Harold and I have been burned by  &#8220;LAWYERS that were suppose to be for us but opps a mistake &#8221;  instead cut our throats and did more for the opposition than can be tallied.    </p>
<p>There are so many really working for NONAIS we can win but stick with those who have proven themselves and support real actions.    R-Calf is a great one  <a href="http://www.r-calfusa.com/index.html " rel="nofollow">R-CALF </a>-     make your donations specific to no nais.   Doreen is on that committee.  You know she is fully invested and true to her word.    R-CALF&#8217;s focus on shifting nais funds to animals disease programs since present traceback works and nais does nothing for prevention is brilliant.     They have already cleared out the enemies within and are thriving because they did.    </p>
<p>Mary Zanoni is a lawyer and small-farm activist in rural upstate New York. She publishes the Farm for Life Newsletter, a quarterly print publication covering the National Animal Identification System and related issues. Subscriptions are $25 per year, payable by check to Farm for Life, P.O. Box 501, Canton, NY 13617.&#8221;</p>
<p>ARAPA<br />
JOIN ARAPA NOW! see membership page for membership applications and information! HUNDREDS have already joined - lawyers, retired congressmen, &#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.arkansasanimalproducers.com/index.html " rel="nofollow">ARAPA</a>-   I have been a long time member  so have many from other states.<br />
Yes we want many many real lawsuits to stop NAIS and they have to be real and done right&#8230;.like Mary&#8217;s,  Like R-Calf&#8217;s suits.  We need lawyers that are up for the challenge and really in it to win.<br />
That is my two cents.
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		<title>by: Mary Beth</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/07/15/usda-sued-to-stop-nais/#comment-1394258</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am with Nick on this one. I personally plan on letting the dust settle and upon confirmation of filing sending in a donation. Not necessary to overreact. The Farm to consumer legal defense has a good track record and has done good work in the past. Let them have time to get this filing confirmed before having a mutiny. I can understand them being excited about this and sending out the news even though the paperwork hadn't made it all the way through channels. 
I am a member of R-Calf and am a little disappointed they have not done more against NAIS. Other cattle items seem to have priority with their legal staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with Nick on this one. I personally plan on letting the dust settle and upon confirmation of filing sending in a donation. Not necessary to overreact. The Farm to consumer legal defense has a good track record and has done good work in the past. Let them have time to get this filing confirmed before having a mutiny. I can understand them being excited about this and sending out the news even though the paperwork hadn&#8217;t made it all the way through channels.<br />
I am a member of R-Calf and am a little disappointed they have not done more against NAIS. Other cattle items seem to have priority with their legal staff.
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		<title>by: KSGal</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/07/15/usda-sued-to-stop-nais/#comment-1394257</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sue Karber, I'm sorry you feel that way, anyone who even atemps to stop this from a legal perspective gets my nod.. you can't do everything all at once, and some things have to happen together. I'm sure they are doing this by the book, and it will at least get filed properly.

I will comment that I'd rather you guys had a paypal thing set up, that is the easiest way to donate smaller one time donations, in my book. I went to your website, but to be honest, I don't want you guys wasting money on sending out bills on donations.  Guess I'll have to waste the stamp fees to send you a check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue Karber, I&#8217;m sorry you feel that way, anyone who even atemps to stop this from a legal perspective gets my nod.. you can&#8217;t do everything all at once, and some things have to happen together. I&#8217;m sure they are doing this by the book, and it will at least get filed properly.</p>
<p>I will comment that I&#8217;d rather you guys had a paypal thing set up, that is the easiest way to donate smaller one time donations, in my book. I went to your website, but to be honest, I don&#8217;t want you guys wasting money on sending out bills on donations.  Guess I&#8217;ll have to waste the stamp fees to send you a check.
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		<title>by: Mrs. Michael Sabo</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/07/15/usda-sued-to-stop-nais/#comment-1394255</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;At the same time, the Fund’s General Counsel, Gary Cox, submitted an application for admission to the D.C. bar.&quot;

Considering FTCLDF already has on the Board a member who could handle this case, why would this be necessary?

Marc Stimpert, Esq.
&quot;Marc is licenced to practice before eleven different federal courts, and recently appeared before the United States Supreme Court in a case involving abuse of power by federal employees.&quot;

Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At the same time, the Fund’s General Counsel, Gary Cox, submitted an application for admission to the D.C. bar.&#8221;</p>
<p>Considering FTCLDF already has on the Board a member who could handle this case, why would this be necessary?</p>
<p>Marc Stimpert, Esq.<br />
&#8220;Marc is licenced to practice before eleven different federal courts, and recently appeared before the United States Supreme Court in a case involving abuse of power by federal employees.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just curious.
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		<title>by: The Phantom</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2008/07/15/usda-sued-to-stop-nais/#comment-1394254</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I agree with Nick. T. Meikle gave their explanation of how the suit has been sent and are awaiting the lawyer's admission to the Wash. DC bar (see commit #15) . I look forward to seeing that the lawsuit has all the legalities done and the name of the Judge that gets the case is given; then, we all unite behind it and go forward. Everyones views are important; and there is no doubt that we all unanimously agree, that NAIS must go. So lets wait and hear from FTC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Nick. T. Meikle gave their explanation of how the suit has been sent and are awaiting the lawyer&#8217;s admission to the Wash. DC bar (see commit #15) . I look forward to seeing that the lawsuit has all the legalities done and the name of the Judge that gets the case is given; then, we all unite behind it and go forward. Everyones views are important; and there is no doubt that we all unanimously agree, that NAIS must go. So lets wait and hear from FTC.
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