Suit Targets USDA and Michigan Department of Agriculture
Falls Church, Virginia, (July 14, 2008) — Attorneys for the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund today filed suit in the U.S. District Court – District of Columbia to stop the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Michigan Department of Agriculture (MDA) from implementing the National Animal Identification System (NAIS), a plan to electronically track every livestock animal in the country.
The MDA has implemented the first two stages of NAIS – property registration and animal identification – for all cattle and farmers across the state as part of a mandatory bovine tuberculosis disease control program required by a grant from the USDA.
The suit asks the court to issue an injunction to stop the implementation of NAIS at either the state or federal levels by any state or federal agency. If successful, the suit would halt the program nationwide.
“We think that current disease reporting procedures and animal tracking methods provide the kind of information health officials need to respond to animal disease events,” explained Fund President Taaron Meikle.
“At a time when the job of protecting our food safety is woefully underfunded, the USDA has spent over $118 million on just the beginning stages of a so-called voluntary program that ultimately seeks to register every horse, chicken, cow, goat, sheep, pig, llama, alpaca or other livestock animal in a national database–more than 120 million animals. It’s a program that only a bureaucrat could love.” she added.
Meikle noted that existing programs for diseases such as tuberculosis, brucellosis and scrapie together with state laws on branding and the existing record keeping by sales barns and livestock shows provide the mechanisms needed for tracking any disease outbreaks.
She said the suit charges that USDA has never published rules regarding NAIS, in violation of the Federal Administrative Procedures Act; has never performed an Environmental Impact Statement or an Environmental Assessment as required by the National Environmental Policy Act; is in violation of the Regulatory Flexibility Act that requires the USDA to analyze proposed rules for their impact on small entities and local governments; and violates religious freedoms guaranteed by the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
“Other mandatory implementations, which weave NAIS into existing regulatory fabric and programs, have occurred in the States of Wisconsin and Indiana where premises registration has been made mandatory; in drought-stricken North Carolina and Tennessee, where farmers have been required to register their premises in order to obtain hay relief; and in Colorado where state fairs are requiring participants to register their premises under NAIS,” explained Judith McGeary, a member of the Farm-to-Consumer Fund board and the executive director of the Farm and Rancher Freedom Alliance.
“We are asking the court to immediately halt implementation of the program nationwide before more farmers and ranchers are strong-armed into participating in a program that the USDA has called voluntary.”
McGeary also questioned the accuracy of the existing database noting that an attempt by the USDA to make the information in the NAIS database subject to Privacy Act safeguards thereby removing them from public scrutiny was suspended indefinitely in a ruling last month by the same federal court that will hear arguments in the current suit. That suit had been filed by a journalist seeking access to the database to determine its accuracy.
About The Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund: The Fund defends the rights and broadens the freedoms of sustainable farmers, and protects consumer access to local, nutrient-dense foods. Concerned citizens can support the Fund by joining at farmtoconsumer.org or by contacting the Fund at 703-208-FARM. The Fund’s sister organization, the Farm-to-Consumer Foundation (farmtoconsumerfoundation.org), works to support farmers engaged in sustainable farm stewardship and promote consumer access to local, nutrient-dense food.
Editor’s Note: A copy of the suit filed against the USDA and MDA is available at farmtoconsumerfoundation.org
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Contacts:
Taaron G. Meikle
President, Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund and Farm-to-Consumer Foundation
703-537-8372
tgmeikle@aol.com
Brian Cummings
Cummings & Company LLC
214-295-7463
brian@cummingspr.com
The lawsuit was perfect timing. Wonder what Bruce Knight talked about today at that meeting (international) in California…..Anyway of finding out? May have had to change his speech to one of addressing the issues raised in the lawsuit, instead of “Nais being what the animal owners of America are going to get….voluntarily (with enforcement…called “mandetory”). Thanks to all the people who have helped this suit come to fruition. Great work.
Comment The Phantom — July 15, 2008 @ 2:20 pm
Isn’t this the week when all the power elite males go camping at Bohemian Grove in order to forget their burdensome cares? Maybe that’s the ‘international’ meeting Bruce Knight is attending.
Any chance a few bolts of dry lightning might strike that particular stand of California Redwoods?
Comment donna — July 15, 2008 @ 9:22 pm
There are already enough fires in CA where they started coincidentally at the time gay marriage was allowed !?!?!?!
But let’s keep the fuel in the fire where it matters, in this very important lawsuit. I am going send my heartfelt thanks to those involved in this courtcase.
Comment esbee — July 16, 2008 @ 8:33 am
I would not put it past the pooers-that-be of allowing a convenient “outbreak” during this the time this suit is in litigation. But if there is, I bet it will be in Texas where there is already some TB in cows along the border. Probably it will not be a real outbreak but just more media attention drawn to it making it seem like a real bad outbreak. Kinda like the tomato/peppers salmonella outbreak this summer.
Comment esbee — July 16, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
Anyone heard of or had experience with bovine leukemia?
Comment donna — July 16, 2008 @ 6:44 pm
To Donna:
Yes, in college Beef Sciences class and lab . Doc wasn’t worried about the disease, he said that studies done at the time indicated the likelyhood of it infecting people was very, very low to non-existent. He did have a bottle of alcohol for use when vacinating the cattle and the neddle was changed every time the gun was reloaded, largely to prevent all sorts of infections, not just transmittable diseases. We weren’t allowed to drink raw milk at the Dairy, since that was being tested as a possible route of infection for humans. What I do know today is that the disease is largely confined to cattle, the US Beef and Dairy industry (including the USDA) have NOT been concerned with eradicating, it unlike Europe. Water Buffalo are belived to be natural carriers of and IF it crosses spieces lines such as to sheep or rabbits (which seemingly only happens artifically)the animals quickly die or develop a fatal version of an AIDs type virius. And it hasn’t ever been found in humans nor has it tainted any meat products.
Comment Lorene — July 17, 2008 @ 12:40 pm
And another thing, many people in the Vegan and PETA circles are using Bovine Leukemia (also known as Malignant Edema)as a cause to stop poeple exploiting cattle by eating meat. They are promoting the idea that this IS the cause of the so-called “mystery Luekemia” infections in people. They are citing studies that people in Africa and europe (where it is common to consume raw meat and milk) have a higher incidence of a human leukemia virus which pathologicaly resembles the Bovine leukemia. But they can’t make the link between the 2 viruses. Our western habits of cooking meat and pasturizing milk provides a significant level of protection against a lot of diseases. It hasn’t been found in any meat products and while the virius has been detected in milk it has mostly been in the colostrum and pasturizing kills the virius out right. The few times humans have been diagnosed with bovine leukemia it was in very old people and those with a very week immune system who had a habit of drinking raw milk.
Comment Lorene — July 17, 2008 @ 1:08 pm
Donna, with what supposedly goes on at the Bohemian Grove, I would hope that a tsunami would come up and wipe it off the face of the earth.. Richard Nixon, who attended it while he was still alive said it was one of the “Gayest” events he had ever been to, and he didn’t mean happy when he said that..It is a gathering of the power mad elitist global fascists who gather to worship the owl god Moloch and dress in womens clothing and pee on the redwoods. They also broker deals like who they will allow to be the next president. Bill Clinton attended before he was elected as did George Bush 1 and George Bush 2..Rumor has it the McCaine and Obama were both in attendance for a day or two..So who knows which one of those creeps will snag the presidency..But rest assured once the dust settles we will have the best government that money can buy..too bad it doesn’t work for us…
Comment Deb — July 18, 2008 @ 1:21 pm
As some may not have looked at the lawsuit, you go to farmtoconsumer.org and hit on their “release” at the top of the page. This brings you to the newsrelease; and at the bottom, typed in red is:”Complaint for Preliminary and other injunctive relief”…that is the 62 page suit. It is easy to read for the lay person; you do not have to be a lawyer. I liked what they concluded with, in their “prayer for relief” at the end. “Plaintiff prays that the court issue an injunction against Defendents, enjoining Defendants from requesting, soliciting, seeking, awarding, issuing, releasing, receiving or in any other way using or disbursing federal, state or local funds for any and all phases of NAIS, including all past, present and future phases of NAIS, for thirty years and if any federal state or local funds have been issued to this point that all federal, state or local funds be disgorged by any and all recipients and returned to the United States or State of Michigan.” (Return money? bet that will cause a lot of ….misery to some, huh?)
Comment The Phantom — July 18, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
Actually that money should be returned to the tax payers
and a lawsuit filed against big ag for using our tax money to fund their private business….remember THEY dragged us into this as “partners” though what made them think we would be silent partners… but do not put it past big ag to shift the blame unto us as they wanted to do with disease. I can hear them crying now at the court case….”It’s all THEIR fault, those those (boo hoo) private livestock owners (sniff) We tried to tell them we (sniff, cry, bawl) that we knew what was best for our food supply….but they wouldn’t listen, it’s all THEIR fault, they caused it, we (sniffle) were only trying to do what was best for the general public. Can I have another tissue please!”
Comment esbee — July 18, 2008 @ 6:37 pm
Here’s wishing the Farm-to-Consumer Foundation the best of luck! We’re here for you! So thankful you are there for us! Esbee, I found your comment concerning the CA fires timing with the gay marriage very interesting. I’ve never been one to read the paper, but the correlation between human activities and nature are pretty astounding. If the theory is correct, I guess there’s a big storm brewing! Check out the story about the Nazi camp for kids and the Long Island Express.
Comment josmith — July 19, 2008 @ 10:41 am
Comment #4 Esbee
If they try another disease out break, remember this
If disease is an issue, then why has there been a decrease in government testing for bovine tuberculosis in California from 10,576 tests in 1995 to 5,100 in 1994 to 1,425 in 1999, Why turn border checks over to a Chihuahuan cattle producers’ association despite the high prevalence of bovine tuberculosis in Mexican cattle?
Also truckers say Mexican produce is transferred to “USA produce” boxes at the border UNDER THE EYES OF INSPECTORS!!!
Unfortunately whistleblowers find their CDLs refoked by the DOT..HMMMmmm
Comment Snazy snezy — July 19, 2008 @ 2:14 pm
Bearer of bad news here. In truth the lawsuit has not been filed. It was mailed, yes, but not filed by the clerk because the Legal Defense Fund has no lawyers who are admitted to the bar in the DC court. Until they either have another attorney to sponsor Gary Cox or can find a lawyer who is admitted to the bar in the DC district court, nothing is going to happen.
They knew this when they sent out the press release.
Something stinks in Denmark.
Comment Henwhisperer — July 19, 2008 @ 2:31 pm
Surely, Henwhisperer wrote in jest, “They knew this when they sent out the press release.”
It is clear from a perusal of the Notice of Intent to Sue Letter and supporting documents that the attorneys at the FTCLDF are serious and committed to the fight to stop NAIS. Imagine the many documents they must have sifted through and read and reread to decide what to include as footnotes and/or as attachments.
The complaint is no less a marvel with its reference to declarations collected from various farmers listed as plaintiffs.
I say, let’s cheer for the team since they are stepping out into untested waters on our behalf and that of our children.
Comment ShawnaCPWH — July 19, 2008 @ 7:09 pm
The complaint against USDA and MDA was mailed on July 14th and was received on or about July 16th by the Clerk of Court for the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. At the same time, the Fund’s General Counsel, Gary Cox, submitted an application for admission to the D.C. bar. The application was sponsored by an attorney who is admitted to the D.C. bar. Filing the application for admission together with the pleading is a common procedure.
On July 17th, the Clerk’s office contacted the Fund’s General Counsel and informed him that it would hold the complaint pending his admission to the District Court for the District of Columbia. The Clerk raised no objections to the application or the complaint. The Clerk of the Court has possession of the complaint and will mark it as filed as soon as the application for admission is processed. Once it is filed, the USDA and MDA will have to respond with either an Answer or a responsive pleading within a specific number of days.
Comment Taaron G. Meikle — July 20, 2008 @ 4:30 am
Can you please explain how a press release was sent out with the statement that it was FILED when you (FTCLDF) have so many attorneys on staff that you certainly had to know the simple fact that someone had to be a member of the bar in order for the suit to actually be considered filed?
I am not at all interested in getting into a pissing match over dedication with any of you, I simply see this as a major—MAJOR— point of (at the very least) irresponsibility on the Funds behalf and believe the dedicated opponents of NAIS deserve an accounting.
Comment Doreen — July 20, 2008 @ 8:29 am
There is a huge difference in MAILED and FILED. I fell for the appeal for funds and even promoted sending funds based on FILED LAWSUIT as did so many others. We were used. I had to backtrack and recall my donation and contact all who I had begged for monies for this group. My hefty check is being returned and will be put to work elsewhere. Most are paid by week or bi-weekly so most had not sent in yet but had it ready when deposits on Friday cleared. Others were holding garage sales, selling something to help.
Even an idiot knows that mailed and filed are different ball games and the attorney of record MUST have a lic. in that district or state to FILE. Until the lic. is obtained and valid NOTHING CAN BE FILED so the press release was designed to mislead. This is a major set back and people that really want to fight NAIS have other places like R-Calf to look to for real relief. I am spitting mad over this whole affair.
Comment Sue Karber — July 20, 2008 @ 3:18 pm
we can not afford to show a fracture in our cause and war on nais.this is the very problem we have had in the past and looks like we will have in the future,when someone or some group is willing to step out and take the government on we seem not to be able to get behind them.we need a place to start and michigan seems like the place to do it.kill it there maybe it dies everwhere.i would urge all nais fighters and groups to show support for those willing to step up and take the lead.
Comment nick — July 21, 2008 @ 5:27 am
I agree with Nick. T. Meikle gave their explanation of how the suit has been sent and are awaiting the lawyer’s admission to the Wash. DC bar (see commit #15) . I look forward to seeing that the lawsuit has all the legalities done and the name of the Judge that gets the case is given; then, we all unite behind it and go forward. Everyones views are important; and there is no doubt that we all unanimously agree, that NAIS must go. So lets wait and hear from FTC.
Comment The Phantom — July 21, 2008 @ 7:25 am
“At the same time, the Fund’s General Counsel, Gary Cox, submitted an application for admission to the D.C. bar.”
Considering FTCLDF already has on the Board a member who could handle this case, why would this be necessary?
Marc Stimpert, Esq.
“Marc is licenced to practice before eleven different federal courts, and recently appeared before the United States Supreme Court in a case involving abuse of power by federal employees.”
Just curious.
Comment Mrs. Michael Sabo — July 21, 2008 @ 7:34 am
Sue Karber, I’m sorry you feel that way, anyone who even atemps to stop this from a legal perspective gets my nod.. you can’t do everything all at once, and some things have to happen together. I’m sure they are doing this by the book, and it will at least get filed properly.
I will comment that I’d rather you guys had a paypal thing set up, that is the easiest way to donate smaller one time donations, in my book. I went to your website, but to be honest, I don’t want you guys wasting money on sending out bills on donations. Guess I’ll have to waste the stamp fees to send you a check.
Comment KSGal — July 21, 2008 @ 10:18 am
I am with Nick on this one. I personally plan on letting the dust settle and upon confirmation of filing sending in a donation. Not necessary to overreact. The Farm to consumer legal defense has a good track record and has done good work in the past. Let them have time to get this filing confirmed before having a mutiny. I can understand them being excited about this and sending out the news even though the paperwork hadn’t made it all the way through channels.
I am a member of R-Calf and am a little disappointed they have not done more against NAIS. Other cattle items seem to have priority with their legal staff.
Comment Mary Beth — July 21, 2008 @ 11:46 am
We recalled our donation because it was based on a lie and in my opinion so much more. We think hard before investing in things and here is why. My dad went back at 40 and got his law degree and did so because he got so tired of hiring lawyers that cut his throat and got paid for it. As a client he had to trust his lawyer but over and over his lawyers mistakes and mis-steps legally sold him out so he became a lawyer so he could win and he did win when he invested in protecting himself or business. Think about it….Mary Zanoni used another lawyer to file her suit and she was not out begging for funds over and over….she invested in her fight for her freedom and we all benefited. Right on the heels we get this mailing of lawsuit labeled filed with appeal for funds. Playing on Mary’s success. R-Calf has fought and won and had to refight to rewin the original and puts the lawsuit in action before asking for funds to help. Clear difference with a false news releaseand as yet unknown sponsor as of FRIDAY, four days after mailing. Had the press release been labeled mailed not filed I would have waited to donate until it was filed. Now the members of Farm to Consumer are like my dad, honest and dedicated but what happened to cut their throats…. I think I will stick to those who have proven they can be trusted and have a track record. This is the second time Harold and I have been burned by “LAWYERS that were suppose to be for us but opps a mistake ” instead cut our throats and did more for the opposition than can be tallied.
There are so many really working for NONAIS we can win but stick with those who have proven themselves and support real actions. R-Calf is a great one R-CALF - make your donations specific to no nais. Doreen is on that committee. You know she is fully invested and true to her word. R-CALF’s focus on shifting nais funds to animals disease programs since present traceback works and nais does nothing for prevention is brilliant. They have already cleared out the enemies within and are thriving because they did.
Mary Zanoni is a lawyer and small-farm activist in rural upstate New York. She publishes the Farm for Life Newsletter, a quarterly print publication covering the National Animal Identification System and related issues. Subscriptions are $25 per year, payable by check to Farm for Life, P.O. Box 501, Canton, NY 13617.”
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JOIN ARAPA NOW! see membership page for membership applications and information! HUNDREDS have already joined - lawyers, retired congressmen, …
ARAPA- I have been a long time member so have many from other states.
Yes we want many many real lawsuits to stop NAIS and they have to be real and done right….like Mary’s, Like R-Calf’s suits. We need lawyers that are up for the challenge and really in it to win.
That is my two cents.
Comment Sue Karber — July 21, 2008 @ 2:51 pm
sue,i have been proud member of r-calf for a while now.they are a great group and i have been promoting them on this site at least 2 years now.walter even ask me about my message back then saying it was the same every time,and it was,join r-calf and we can beat this nais.it seems there are 3 groups that are willing to take on the feds,r-calf,zanoni,farm to consumer.they need to get together and share their ideas,mabe even form a common front,dont you think?
Comment nick — July 21, 2008 @ 8:57 pm
After posting my comment I was notified that I could see which attorneys were able to practice in D.C. and the admission requirements for the D.C. Bar, which I did. Mr. Stimpert is not “listed” so I should have researched my information before asking the question.
“We” (IICFA) cannot make a statement based on what others will do, just keep moving forward. Sometimes the footwork is the most important factor in sucess, I am glad we have feet.
Comment Mrs. Michael Sabo — July 22, 2008 @ 7:06 am
Hi Nick, yes R-Calf has proven their worth in this fight. Some might not realize when they take on the packers or BSE or fight like the dickens to stop the premise id or file to stop imports with TB we all win. The little guy with home grown meat for own use benefits right along with the mom and pop cattle operations. The real winner though is the consumer. Every consumer should join R-Calf and every person even if they only have one chicken. They have a choice to either grow their own or buy from a local grower. R-Calf has like Mrs. Sabo says put their feet to the pavement done their homework and are fully invested in winning. They have done their research and proven they can be trusted and will use my donations and support to work for me and also work with others all the time. They often form a group effort whether to file a suit or hit congress with something like property rights. They are truly invested in the fight.
Consumers need education in what they have at stake. Articles like Walter was featured in Locally grown food,
helps but we all need to educate consumers what is at stake and why eat local and USA.
Stopping NAIS does not mean throwing money at anyone who makes a statement or promise. A fool is soon parted from their money just ask all those who did not read the fine print. Support must be targeted and effective. Then give til it hurts to those who have proven they can be trusted. It will take us all to really fund all the suits that need to be filed but they must be real and out to win. The real battle is door to door, neighbor to neighbor and local. EDUCATE your community. For me I am very careful where I put my limited dollars since I want them to count and get us a bunch of wins.
Comment Sue Karber — July 22, 2008 @ 11:22 am
Her is another take on the fight against NAIS. I do not think I have seen anyone post about this.
The USDA is claiming that NAIS will promote Food Safety and Disease Prevention. The proposed regulations will not increase Food Safety but will actually cause the USDA to turn from food safety to revenue generation. A study of asset forfeiture’s impact on police procedure. Drug Enforcements Double-Edged Sword: An Assessment of Asset Forfieture Programs said the policy forces law enforcement agencies to subordinate justice to profit.
THE EFFECTS OF FORFEITURE:
A simple clerical error in Medicare billing can subject a physician to a full audit of his medical practice and to forfeiture of all of his assets. This epidemic of witch-hunting in medicine separates doctors from the practice of medicine and makes them the adversaries of their patients. It began in 1992 with a groundbreaking case of Medicare fraud in which a testing action once standard among health care providers was deemed fraudulent.
The U.S. Attorney’s Office charged that La Jolla-based National Health Laboratories, one of the nation’s largest medical laboratory chains, conducted unneeded medical tests on patients to inflate lab charges….NME agreed to pay the government more than $362 million, and a former company executive faces up to 10 years in prison. Medicare regulations occupy hundreds of thousands of pages, and to understand them a doctor would have to relinquish medicine for a new career in Medicare law. Is it too expensive to be a primary care doctor? Yes and it results in a growing shortage of primary care physicians. (Vets take note)
Under forfeiture statutes, innocent owners of property or money, never charged with a crime, still must prove their innocence through complex proceedings. . Under civil asset forfeiture laws, the simple possession of cash, with no drugs or other contraband, can be considered evidence of criminal activity. [premise id is a license to search without cause]
Results from the Asset Forfeiture study above revealed a concentration on seizing real property with a high value. In addition, real property seizures are preplanned and commonly made under the controversial facilitation statute.
EXAMPLES FROM THE STUDY:
When asked why a search warrant would not be served on a suspect known to have resale quantities of contraband one officer responded:
“Because that would just give us a bunch of dope and the hassle of having to book him (the suspect). We’ve got all the dope we need in the property room, just stick to rounding up cases with big money and stay away from warrants.”
In another case officers were instructed to wait until most of a large shipment was converted into cash.
This perversion of law enforcement priorities was the subject of an empirical study “Efficiency is measured by the amount of money seized rather than impact on drug trafficking.” , Drug Enforcements Double-Edged Sword: An Assessment of Asset Forfieture Programs described forfeiture as a “dysfunctional policy” that forces law enforcement agencies to subordinate justice to profit.
Is there evidence that the USDA is turning away from Food Safety?
Government testing for bovine tuberculosis in California from 10,576 tests in 1995 to 5,100 in 1994 to 1,425 in 1999, USDA border checks turned over to Chihuahuan Cattle Producers’ Association despite the high prevalence of bovine tuberculosis in Mexican cattle. Dr. Logan… said, “the disease is extremely rare in U.S. herds. How- ever, more TB-lesioned cattle are being detected at slaughter, and ear tags indicate that many of these animals are of Mexican origin.” Prior to 1994, only eight wild white-tailed or mule deer had been reported with bovine TB in North America To date, 397 deer and two elk were confirmed with disease.
“…it frustrates me and many of my members when we are told by our supervisors… not to write non-compliance reports…the agency’s databases may not contain accurate information… because of pressure being applied not to write them up for violations….”
Testimony Of Stanley Painter, Chairman National Joint Council of Food Inspection Local Unions, during the Hallmark investigation. Domestic Policy Oversight Hearings on Hallmark
Will new regulations mean the USDA will ignore factory farms owned by multinational corporations and illegals with livestock smuggled from Mexico and target family farms for forfeiture? Will the food safety be forgotten while the USDA chases paperwork and tag errors?
An example of selective enforcement of the proposed NAIS can be seen in Australia. Due to severe drought, ranchers move cattle from one location to another to best care for the animals. But tags numbers are based on location not on ownership.
.”My only crime is running two properties. I could not guarantee that cattle tagged that day did not leave the property.” “The DPI admitted in court that utilizing the same NLIS ear tag on different properties under one management/ownership,…is common .”
“I am also intrigued by the DPI’s selective action and prosecution. DPI’…has been contacted in relation to much more serious breaches of the regulations e.g no NVD and no NLIS on movement of cattle, and he/ the DPI/the Minister have chosen to take no action.”
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