Comments on: NH May Request REAL ID Extension http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/ Protect our traditional rights to farm Thu, 17 May 2012 04:23:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Snazy snezy http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-996097 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:46:55 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-996097 I use the sharp increase in the price of oil to get my point across. If most of the US farmers go out of business we will have to import our food. If you think gas prices are high wait till China or third world countries supply our food. I us this quote from former VP Al Gore: "Upon hearing that the FFA member wanted to continue on in production agriculture, Gore reportedly replied that the young person should develop other plans because our production agriculture is being shifted out of the U.S. to the Third World." <a href="http://showcase.netins.net/web/sarahb/farm/">link</a> That usually gets them right in the tummy and makes them take notice. I originally heard the quote from my extension service agent! I use the sharp increase in the price of oil to get my point across.

If most of the US farmers go out of business we will have to import our food. If you think gas prices are high wait till China or third world countries supply our food.

I us this quote from former VP Al Gore:

“Upon hearing that the FFA member wanted to continue on in production agriculture, Gore reportedly replied that the young person should develop other plans because our production agriculture is being shifted out of the U.S. to the Third World.”
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That usually gets them right in the tummy and makes them take notice.

I originally heard the quote from my extension service agent!

]]> by: nick http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-990567 Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:02:31 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-990567 liberty loving people along with all people that dont own livestock just dont or wont understand the effect of nais on those of us that do.they still think grocery store is where the food that they eat is made.they cant get fired up about something that does not affect them directly,and most could care less if the small farmer or rancher lives or dies. they mean nothing to them. HOW ABOUT THAT walmart ARNT THEY THE STAR OF CORP. AMERICA. liberty loving people along with all people that dont own livestock just dont or wont understand the effect of nais on those of us that do.they still think grocery store is where the food that they eat is made.they cant get fired up about something that does not affect them directly,and most could care less if the small farmer or rancher lives or dies. they mean nothing to them. HOW ABOUT THAT walmart ARNT THEY THE STAR OF CORP. AMERICA.

]]> by: Bob Constantine http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-988496 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:27:13 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-988496 If you were able to wade thru my earlier post #14...I forgot to mention the Real ID part of SB434 was attached at the last minute in a "hurry up and sneak it thru" move by the NH State Senate to another piece of proposed legislation. That other legislation was pretty bad stuff too...it started off as a bill that would facilitate a power grab by the State Atty. General's office to circumvent the normal warrant procedure...seems the AG office thought in some instances that quaint separation of Governmental powers idea was getting a little old...who needs and checks and balances huh? I'm not sure but I think that part of the bill will not fly either based on my observations of the testimony at the hearings. So "get a warrant" still means something...for now anyway. I met some liberty loving people at the hearings and will try to get them on board the NONAIS bus...but I think even liberty type people that don't own animals still glaze over when NAIS gets discussed...but I'm working on 'em. Maybe giving them some fresh eggs will help :) If you were able to wade thru my earlier post #14…I forgot to mention the Real ID part of SB434 was attached at the last minute in a “hurry up and sneak it thru” move by the NH State Senate to another piece of proposed legislation.

That other legislation was pretty bad stuff too…it started off as a bill that would facilitate a power grab by the State Atty. General’s office to circumvent the normal warrant procedure…seems the AG office thought in some instances that quaint separation of Governmental powers idea was getting a little old…who needs and checks and balances huh?

I’m not sure but I think that part of the bill will not fly either based on my observations of the testimony at the hearings. So “get a warrant” still means something…for now anyway.

I met some liberty loving people at the hearings and will try to get them on board the NONAIS bus…but I think even liberty type people that don’t own animals still glaze over when NAIS gets discussed…but I’m working on ‘em. Maybe giving them some fresh eggs will help :)

]]> by: Bob Constantine http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-988448 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:05:28 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-988448 I don't think the WMUR report is 100% accurate (wouldn't be the first time) I was in the hearing on Tuesday and again today. SB434 was a bill that the NH Senate tried to sneak thru to get Gov. Lynch to ask for an extension....His letter earlier in Feb was asking for an "exemption". Big difference between requesting an extension and being granted an exemption. We spent some time discussing the different meanings of those two words in the hearing... If we were granted an extension it would mean Homeland security granted it to save face and avoid the showdown that would have happened in May 2008....it doesn't necesarily mean Gov. Lynch requested an "extension". Semantics, I know, but important. It is possible Gov. Lynch did ask for an extension, but as of 10 am this morning I was told he hadn't. Again asking for an "extension" would be illegal on Gov. Lynch's part since he would be violating the law NH passed indicating we would have no part of it... Requesting an "extension" to comply on a plan we've already said no to...well gee a politician wouldn't do that...would he...break the law? I could be wrong, but I think the "extension" grant was a face saving move by HOMELAND SECURITY and not necessarily a response to any written request for an actual "extension" by the Governor... I don’t think the WMUR report is 100% accurate (wouldn’t be the first time)

I was in the hearing on Tuesday and again today. SB434 was a bill that the NH Senate tried to sneak thru to get Gov. Lynch to ask for an extension….His letter earlier in Feb was asking for an “exemption”. Big difference between requesting an extension and being granted an exemption. We spent some time discussing the different meanings of those two words in the hearing…

If we were granted an extension it would mean Homeland security granted it to save face and avoid the showdown that would have happened in May 2008….it doesn’t necesarily mean Gov. Lynch requested an “extension”. Semantics, I know, but important.

It is possible Gov. Lynch did ask for an extension, but as of 10 am this morning I was told he hadn’t. Again asking for an “extension” would be illegal on Gov. Lynch’s part since he would be violating the law NH passed indicating we would have no part of it…
Requesting an “extension” to comply on a plan we’ve already said no to…well gee a politician wouldn’t do that…would he…break the law?

I could be wrong, but I think the “extension” grant was a face saving move by HOMELAND SECURITY and not necessarily a response to any written request for an actual “extension” by the Governor…

]]> by: Sue F http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-988297 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:45:15 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-988297 WMUR.com N.H. Granted Extension To Comply With REAL ID POSTED: 5:41 pm EDT March 27, 2008 CONCORD, N.H. -- The state of New Hampshire has been given an extension to comply with the new federal license law REAL ID. The law will now go into effect in New Hampshire on Dec. 31, 2009. The measure was supposed to go into effect on March 31. Gov. John Lynch asked for the extension so lawmakers could further investigate the costs and privacy issues associated with the law. If the state had not been granted an extension, travelers with just a New Hampshire driver's license would have had to undergo secondary security checks at airports. Copyright 2008 by WMUR. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. from WMUR WMUR.com
N.H. Granted Extension To Comply With REAL ID

POSTED: 5:41 pm EDT March 27, 2008
CONCORD, N.H. — The state of New Hampshire has been given an extension to comply with the new federal license law REAL ID.

The law will now go into effect in New Hampshire on Dec. 31, 2009. The measure was supposed to go into effect on March 31.

Gov. John Lynch asked for the extension so lawmakers could further investigate the costs and privacy issues associated with the law.

If the state had not been granted an extension, travelers with just a New Hampshire driver’s license would have had to undergo secondary security checks at airports.

Copyright 2008 by WMUR. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

from WMUR

]]> by: nick http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-985789 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:49:54 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-985789 just read on downsizegov.com montana has rejected real id. how about that.more will follow. thank you montana. just read on downsizegov.com montana has rejected real id. how about that.more will follow. thank you montana.

]]> by: Bob Constantine http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-983689 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:21:50 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-983689 News flash - Today there was a hearing in Concord, NH re: Real ID. The State Senate in a stealth move attached a request to another bill to ask Gov. Lynch to send another letter asking for an "extension" not an "exemption." Funny thing those words...seems like an "extension" might trigger the trap for New Hampshire...bad, bad, bad. This was a last minute thing...the hearing had 23 activists show up to register their opposition, it was continued until Thursday at 10 am...we will monitor this...not sure if I can be there again Thursday but I'll keep an eye on SB434 (HB 434?) and try to provide an update. News flash - Today there was a hearing in Concord, NH re: Real ID. The State Senate in a stealth move attached a request to another bill to ask Gov. Lynch to send another letter asking for an “extension” not an “exemption.” Funny thing those words…seems like an “extension” might trigger the trap for New Hampshire…bad, bad, bad.

This was a last minute thing…the hearing had 23 activists show up to register their opposition, it was continued until Thursday at 10 am…we will monitor this…not sure if I can be there again Thursday but I’ll keep an eye on SB434 (HB 434?) and try to provide an update.

]]> by: The Phantom http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-880921 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:18:50 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-880921 While looking at Alaskans against Nais, today, they highlight an article by Henry Lamb, dated Feb. 23,2008 titled:"Where are the Federal Inspectors..". He talks about the Public/Private/Partnership(s) of USDA with organizations, like FFA, to promote Premises Registrations (for FAA, they got $633,000) He also has an article:"The Bureaucrats' bypass..." dated Feb. 16, 2008. This article is where the state of Arizona's state senators have introduced SB1398 to put controls on PPP's entered into by the governor and state agencies.He mentions NAIS in it also. Go to www.worldnetdaily.com and enter Henry Lambs' name on the left sidebar to access these two articles. We need to really know about these "Public/Private/Partnerships...so go, once again, to www.newswithviews.com and pull up Tom Deweese..and read his 3 articles dated Jan, Feb, and March 2007 on:"The Principles of Freedom vs Public/Private/Partnerships. While looking at Alaskans against Nais, today, they highlight an article by Henry Lamb, dated Feb. 23,2008 titled:”Where are the Federal Inspectors..”. He talks about the Public/Private/Partnership(s) of USDA with organizations, like FFA, to promote Premises Registrations (for FAA, they got $633,000) He also has an article:”The Bureaucrats’ bypass…” dated Feb. 16, 2008. This article is where the state of Arizona’s state senators have introduced SB1398 to put controls on PPP’s entered into by the governor and state agencies.He mentions NAIS in it also. Go to www.worldnetdaily.com and enter Henry Lambs’ name on the left sidebar to access these two articles. We need to really know about these “Public/Private/Partnerships…so go, once again, to www.newswithviews.com and pull up Tom Deweese..and read his 3 articles dated Jan, Feb, and March 2007 on:”The Principles of Freedom vs Public/Private/Partnerships.

]]> by: The Phantom http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-879077 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:03:11 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-879077 There is a good article today, Feb. 24, 2008 by Tom Deweese at www.newswithviews.com that addresses the problems with Real Id, and government databases that integrate together...their inherent dangers...and "unintended consequences" that are not good that can be the result of them. Think of NAIS as you read it. Tom Deweese also did articles on "Freedom vs Public,Private, Partnerships" which were very educational. (I was not aware of what PPP's were, til I read his articles)Hit on his "previous articles" to read them. There is a good article today, Feb. 24, 2008 by Tom Deweese at www.newswithviews.com that addresses the problems with Real Id, and government databases that integrate together…their inherent dangers…and “unintended consequences” that are not good that can be the result of them. Think of NAIS as you read it. Tom Deweese also did articles on “Freedom vs Public,Private, Partnerships” which were very educational. (I was not aware of what PPP’s were, til I read his articles)Hit on his “previous articles” to read them.

]]> by: Gisela http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-878470 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 06:47:39 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2008/02/22/nh-may-request-real-id-extension/#comment-878470 Lets not forget Alaska SB202 is now on the table. <a href="http://www.aksenate.org/index.php?bill=sb202&url=index.php%3Fbill%3DSB.039">link</a> Prohibits State Spending for Real ID Lets not forget Alaska SB202 is now on the table.
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Prohibits State Spending for Real ID

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