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	<title>Comments on: USDA Acts to Steal Naturally Grown</title>
	<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/</link>
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		<title>by: Bob Constantine</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-700627</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-700627</guid>
					<description>Walter thanks for pointing out on a previous post a couple of the good things the USDA does...apparently posting your comments first time around isn't one of them though. :)
 
 Since there seem to be several Ron Paul references posted here I'll keep it brief. Part of his campaign literature actually includes a handout indicating his absolute rejection of NAIS. I have some and plan to post them beside the NONAIS  literature I distribute in my travels.
 Somehow I just don't see any other ahem &quot;major&quot; candidate even knowing what NAIS is or if they do know, helping us get rid of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter thanks for pointing out on a previous post a couple of the good things the USDA does&#8230;apparently posting your comments first time around isn&#8217;t one of them though. :)</p>
<p> Since there seem to be several Ron Paul references posted here I&#8217;ll keep it brief. Part of his campaign literature actually includes a handout indicating his absolute rejection of NAIS. I have some and plan to post them beside the NONAIS  literature I distribute in my travels.<br />
 Somehow I just don&#8217;t see any other ahem &#8220;major&#8221; candidate even knowing what NAIS is or if they do know, helping us get rid of it.
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		<title>by: walterj</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-698997</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-698997</guid>
					<description>Since the USDA has not yet posted my comments but has posted two comments from a large poultry processing plant I have resubmitted my comments in a revised form. I suggest people check to make sure their comments are being submitted. Both times I was given a tracking number. The new tracking number is 803780f7.

Here's my revised new comments:

We are a small family farm with no outside non-family employees and net annual sales under $100,000. We are already Certified Naturally Grown by the certifying organization which can be found at http://NaturallyGrown.org which has been certifying farms for years for this claim. Our certification and the use of the CNG logo is an important marketing tool that helps us and other small farmers differentiate our products. Our customers have come to recognize our logo and the CNG logo on our meat label as a sign of quality.

Because there is already a certifying organization for Certified Naturally Grown (http://NaturallyGrown.org) this standard should be set to follow the guidelines and rules already established by that organization and followed by farmers who are already certified by that national organization. Duplication of the term, standards, rules and moniker could cause unnecessary confusion for consumers as well as hardship for farmers who are already Certified Naturally Grown.


Specifically regarding the proposed voluntary standards the following changes need to be made:

1. The words &quot;mammalian or avian by-products&quot; should be modified to be &quot;mammalian or avian _slaughter_ by-products&quot; to explicitly allow for the feeding of dairy and eggs to swine. These are natural and good forms of food for pigs. Consumers understand and expect our pigs to eat milk and eggs which are traditional foods for hogs. For example in the proposed standard it says:

&quot;The feeding of mammalian or avian by-products is prohibited. Livestock cannot be fed rations that include components that are mammalian or avian derived.&quot;

needs to be changed to:

&quot;The feeding of mammalian or avian _slaughter_ by-products is prohibited. Livestock cannot be fed rations that include components that are derived from mammalian or avian slaughter.&quot;

Other sections need to be similarly revised. Let me know if you need help rewording it but those examples should get you started.


2. Livestock should specifically be required to free-range outdoors on pasture in order to meat the claim standards. Confinement feeding operations should be explicitly excluded from using the term Naturally Raised or Naturally Grown. Consumers expect that Naturally Grown and Naturally Raised mean the animals are outdoors on pasture. To simply set the standard at the way it is worded in the proposed AMS standard would be both miss-leading and confusing to consumers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the USDA has not yet posted my comments but has posted two comments from a large poultry processing plant I have resubmitted my comments in a revised form. I suggest people check to make sure their comments are being submitted. Both times I was given a tracking number. The new tracking number is 803780f7.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my revised new comments:</p>
<p>We are a small family farm with no outside non-family employees and net annual sales under $100,000. We are already Certified Naturally Grown by the certifying organization which can be found at <a href='http://NaturallyGrown.org' rel='nofollow'>http://NaturallyGrown.org</a> which has been certifying farms for years for this claim. Our certification and the use of the CNG logo is an important marketing tool that helps us and other small farmers differentiate our products. Our customers have come to recognize our logo and the CNG logo on our meat label as a sign of quality.</p>
<p>Because there is already a certifying organization for Certified Naturally Grown (http://NaturallyGrown.org) this standard should be set to follow the guidelines and rules already established by that organization and followed by farmers who are already certified by that national organization. Duplication of the term, standards, rules and moniker could cause unnecessary confusion for consumers as well as hardship for farmers who are already Certified Naturally Grown.</p>
<p>Specifically regarding the proposed voluntary standards the following changes need to be made:</p>
<p>1. The words &#8220;mammalian or avian by-products&#8221; should be modified to be &#8220;mammalian or avian _slaughter_ by-products&#8221; to explicitly allow for the feeding of dairy and eggs to swine. These are natural and good forms of food for pigs. Consumers understand and expect our pigs to eat milk and eggs which are traditional foods for hogs. For example in the proposed standard it says:</p>
<p>&#8220;The feeding of mammalian or avian by-products is prohibited. Livestock cannot be fed rations that include components that are mammalian or avian derived.&#8221;</p>
<p>needs to be changed to:</p>
<p>&#8220;The feeding of mammalian or avian _slaughter_ by-products is prohibited. Livestock cannot be fed rations that include components that are derived from mammalian or avian slaughter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Other sections need to be similarly revised. Let me know if you need help rewording it but those examples should get you started.</p>
<p>2. Livestock should specifically be required to free-range outdoors on pasture in order to meat the claim standards. Confinement feeding operations should be explicitly excluded from using the term Naturally Raised or Naturally Grown. Consumers expect that Naturally Grown and Naturally Raised mean the animals are outdoors on pasture. To simply set the standard at the way it is worded in the proposed AMS standard would be both miss-leading and confusing to consumers
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		<title>by: Amber</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-697227</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-697227</guid>
					<description>For those of you who question whether the defender of the constitution, Ron Paul, can win check out

www.thecaseforRonPaul.com

then put your support where he needs it the most Dec.16 $100

www.teaparty07.com

If we put all of this grassroots effort behind him it will really steamroll his campaign.  This seems to be our best chance at real change.  Check out and get involved with your local Ron Paul meetup group.

www.meetup.com

Thanks Walter for all you do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who question whether the defender of the constitution, Ron Paul, can win check out</p>
<p><a href='http://www.thecaseforRonPaul.com' rel='nofollow'>www.thecaseforRonPaul.com</a></p>
<p>then put your support where he needs it the most Dec.16 $100</p>
<p><a href='http://www.teaparty07.com' rel='nofollow'>www.teaparty07.com</a></p>
<p>If we put all of this grassroots effort behind him it will really steamroll his campaign.  This seems to be our best chance at real change.  Check out and get involved with your local Ron Paul meetup group.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.meetup.com' rel='nofollow'>www.meetup.com</a></p>
<p>Thanks Walter for all you do!
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		<title>by: Pete</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-687164</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-687164</guid>
					<description>An interesting note, several pig breeds, such as the Gloucestershire Old Spot, were developed in an environment where they were fed whey. This is then logically a part of their 'natural' diet. It is certainly more natural than a corn/soybean ration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting note, several pig breeds, such as the Gloucestershire Old Spot, were developed in an environment where they were fed whey. This is then logically a part of their &#8216;natural&#8217; diet. It is certainly more natural than a corn/soybean ration.
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		<title>by: Pete</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-687142</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-687142</guid>
					<description>Walter,

The Fed Reg description calls this part of the 'voluntary' AMS program. But I get the impression that this is not so voluntary in practice. Can you explain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter,</p>
<p>The Fed Reg description calls this part of the &#8216;voluntary&#8217; AMS program. But I get the impression that this is not so voluntary in practice. Can you explain?
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		<title>by: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-682948</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-682948</guid>
					<description>The way I see it.  If you want grass fed beef or anything else.
You need to get to know your local farmer.  Buy local.  Or raise your animals yourself.  

In the end, change is what is needed.  Isn't it funny that the FDA was put in place to protect us.  Now the medicines the FDA say are okay kill us!  The USDA cuts back on meat inspectors and spend money trying to get NAIS installed in each state.  Private meat inspectors and laboratories is what we need.  I agree that FDA and USDA gone would save US folks lots of dollars.    

I plan on voting for Ron Paul!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I see it.  If you want grass fed beef or anything else.<br />
You need to get to know your local farmer.  Buy local.  Or raise your animals yourself.  </p>
<p>In the end, change is what is needed.  Isn&#8217;t it funny that the FDA was put in place to protect us.  Now the medicines the FDA say are okay kill us!  The USDA cuts back on meat inspectors and spend money trying to get NAIS installed in each state.  Private meat inspectors and laboratories is what we need.  I agree that FDA and USDA gone would save US folks lots of dollars.    </p>
<p>I plan on voting for Ron Paul!
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		<title>by: donna</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-678823</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 22:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-678823</guid>
					<description>Dr. Paul did not imagine his campaign would come this far.  We need to follow his example and put our convictions on the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Paul did not imagine his campaign would come this far.  We need to follow his example and put our convictions on the line.
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		<title>by: Jo Smith</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-676761</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-676761</guid>
					<description>Less than 15 minutes after putting &quot;Ron Paul for President&quot; signs on my property, a fellow in a blue brono pulled over on the side of the highway and started to make off with one of them.  A few choice words later, and he was hightailing his butt off my property.  I guess you know who I'm voting for and why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less than 15 minutes after putting &#8220;Ron Paul for President&#8221; signs on my property, a fellow in a blue brono pulled over on the side of the highway and started to make off with one of them.  A few choice words later, and he was hightailing his butt off my property.  I guess you know who I&#8217;m voting for and why.
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		<title>by: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-675514</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-675514</guid>
					<description>I hope I did that right.
Yeah, it doesn't seem 'the government for the people by the people', with the gov. &quot;fearing&quot; the people. It sure seems THE PEOPLE &quot;fearing the gov!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope I did that right.<br />
Yeah, it doesn&#8217;t seem &#8216;the government for the people by the people&#8217;, with the gov. &#8220;fearing&#8221; the people. It sure seems THE PEOPLE &#8220;fearing the gov!!
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		<title>by: Anthony Kimbrough</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-674990</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/29/usda-acts-to-steal-naturally-grown/#comment-674990</guid>
					<description>Here in Tennessee, I figured that was coming. I spoke this summer with the UT Ag extention office who said I had to pay and join to call my cows organically grown. I told her ok, I naturally grow mine. She said same thing. I said BS, have plenty of that in the field but apparently they had more. 

Perhaps we should say God Grown to the heathers, they surely would not say that. 

Get rid of the FDA, USDA, and all the other thieves in Washington. We need real Americans in office and less offices in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Tennessee, I figured that was coming. I spoke this summer with the UT Ag extention office who said I had to pay and join to call my cows organically grown. I told her ok, I naturally grow mine. She said same thing. I said BS, have plenty of that in the field but apparently they had more. </p>
<p>Perhaps we should say God Grown to the heathers, they surely would not say that. </p>
<p>Get rid of the FDA, USDA, and all the other thieves in Washington. We need real Americans in office and less offices in America.
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