Comments on: MA Playing Dirty, Again http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/ Protect our traditional rights to farm Thu, 17 May 2012 04:13:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Eric http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-670400 Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:37:52 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-670400 The connection and rationalization the the part of NAzIS leaders is easy to see -- the states get paid for each premise they volunteer whether the person wanted to be signed up or not and once the premises is inside the system you can't get out or not without a LOT of work so most people wont. Since the USDA henchmen are paying off the states based on enrollment numbers the states are given incentive to falsify their data and hand over people who don't want to sign up. When corps do this sort of thing -- opt in -- it can get them in trouble. But our government gets to play dirty. The connection and rationalization the the part of NAzIS leaders is easy to see — the states get paid for each premise they volunteer whether the person wanted to be signed up or not and once the premises is inside the system you can’t get out or not without a LOT of work so most people wont. Since the USDA henchmen are paying off the states based on enrollment numbers the states are given incentive to falsify their data and hand over people who don’t want to sign up. When corps do this sort of thing — opt in — it can get them in trouble. But our government gets to play dirty.

]]> by: Paul-Martin:Griepentrog http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-665183 Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:04:35 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-665183 FYI The Country Today newspaper had an article the Wis DATCP applied for hearings on the 14th to begin registering premise without the owners knowing about it. Mostly geared towards Amish and Mennonites according to the article. My premise renewal form had altered info on it claiming I have a game farm, this requires a liscence from the DNR. I have never registered my premise they did it for me. When I contacted the number on the form the person told me it was my fault the info was incorrect and that I would have to correct it. I have asked my state rep. who to file a legal complaint with as ACT 17 requires the contracted agent WLIC to maintain the necessary security as per state statute. To date no one has responded. They can break the laws but we can't. FYI The Country Today newspaper had an article the Wis DATCP applied for hearings on the 14th to begin registering premise without the owners knowing about it. Mostly geared towards Amish and Mennonites according to the article. My premise renewal form had altered info on it claiming I have a game farm, this requires a liscence from the DNR. I have never registered my premise they did it for me. When I contacted the number on the form the person told me it was my fault the info was incorrect and that I would have to correct it. I have asked my state rep. who to file a legal complaint with as ACT 17 requires the contracted agent WLIC to maintain the necessary security as per state statute. To date no one has responded. They can break the laws but we can’t.

]]> by: famerscotty http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-665088 Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:49:15 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-665088 Animal ID system opponents to meet. Opponents of the USDA's National Animal Identification System will be hosting a town hall meeting at 7 p.m. Thursday in Diamond. The meeting will focus on potential local effects of the program and past attempts to block the program's implementation in Missouri Members of the Property Rights Group will speak at the event, to be held at White's Equine Sale Barn on Missouri 59 in Diamond. Officials from the Missouri Department of Agriculture and Missouri Cattlemen's Association and area state legislators also have been invited to speak, the group said in a press release. For more information, call Bob Estep at 417-844-8406. Animal ID system opponents to meet.

Opponents of the USDA’s National Animal Identification System will be hosting a town hall meeting at 7 p.m. Thursday in Diamond.
The meeting will focus on potential local effects of the program and past attempts to block the program’s implementation in Missouri

Members of the Property Rights Group will speak at the event, to be held at White’s Equine Sale Barn on Missouri 59 in Diamond.

Officials from the Missouri Department of Agriculture and Missouri Cattlemen’s Association and area state legislators also have been invited to speak, the group said in a press release.

For more information, call Bob Estep at 417-844-8406.

]]> by: Jo Smith http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-662653 Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:22:30 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-662653 Dear Walter: If nothing else, I am learning to read between the lines where legal matters are concerned. The sentence where the letter states: "AT PRESENT, DAR is only asking for your participation in the premise ID component of NAIS." What else in the future? Also, the comment Renee made about already being in the system,... how can you opt out? It's only a matter of time, with the next outbreak of avian, swine or otherwise flu before NAIS will return to mandatory. We have GOT to educate ourselves and inform everyone about the consequences of this and write to our politicians. If we do not, then we are guilty of doing nothing. Out of the many people that I have tried to explain this situation to, only a small handful have actually listened. Most apparently consider it too bizarre or not their problem to want to become involved. On a personal note: I have run a home based business for more than 14 years. I have had a 3 X 4 foot sign hanging by the highway to advertise my business for those 14 years. Recently, the town that I live in wanted me to apply for a sign permit. I would not, because once you apply for a permit, the town/state has the right to reject your request. Nothing more has been said about it, but I suppose if push came to shove they could MAKE me apply or make me remove my sign. Land of the FREE.... A site worth mentioning which concerns us ALOT is: www.spychips.com. WE'RE NEXT. Dear Walter: If nothing else, I am learning to read between the lines where legal matters are concerned. The sentence where the letter states: “AT PRESENT, DAR is only asking for your participation in the premise ID component of NAIS.” What else in the future?
Also, the comment Renee made about already being in the system,… how can you opt out? It’s only a matter of time, with the next outbreak of avian, swine or otherwise flu before NAIS will return to mandatory. We have GOT to educate ourselves and inform everyone about the consequences of this and write to our politicians. If we do not, then we are guilty of doing nothing. Out of the many people that I have tried to explain this situation to, only a small handful have actually listened. Most apparently consider it too bizarre or not their problem to want to become involved.
On a personal note: I have run a home based business for more than 14 years. I have had a 3 X 4 foot sign hanging by the highway to advertise my business for those 14 years. Recently, the town that I live in wanted me to apply for a sign permit. I would not, because once you apply for a permit, the town/state has the right to reject your request. Nothing more has been said about it, but I suppose if push came to shove they could MAKE me apply or make me remove my sign.
Land of the FREE….
A site worth mentioning which concerns us ALOT is: www.spychips.com. WE’RE NEXT.

]]> by: Ben Grosscup http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-659495 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:41:12 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-659495 We confirmed with Joao Tavares at MDAR this week that the Department says it will honor the later deadline of December 15 for Massachusetts animal owners to opt out. NOFA/Mass will be posting our response shortly at: <a href="http://pressroom.nofamass.org/taxonomy/term/66">link</a> We confirmed with Joao Tavares at MDAR this week that the Department says it will honor the later deadline of December 15 for Massachusetts animal owners to opt out. NOFA/Mass will be posting our response shortly at: link

]]> by: LEE http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-659347 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:53:11 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-659347 "As a dog returneth to its vomit;so a bureauacrat to his deceitfulness"....my version:) We of course know and expect this tactic from the elite govt types,...if at first you don't succede,lie,lie again! Lets all take a day to reflect,to be thankful,and to embrace an "attitude of gratitude" for all we do have,all the blessings and friends,family ect,all the liberties that we have,and then lets remember that certain folks out there want to destroy all we hold dear,then lets all give thanks to God and to each other for all of it and resolve to fight back twice as hard to ensure we pass along our heritage of liberty to our kids and grandkids forever. Walter,to you and yours a very special Thanksgiving,and to all of you everywhere out there,thank you for all you are doing to preserve liberty,have a great holiday! "Live free or die tryin" “As a dog returneth to its vomit;so a bureauacrat to his deceitfulness”….my version:)

We of course know and expect this tactic from the elite govt types,…if at first you don’t succede,lie,lie again!

Lets all take a day to reflect,to be thankful,and to embrace an “attitude of gratitude” for all we do have,all the blessings and friends,family ect,all the liberties that we have,and then lets remember that certain folks out there want to destroy all we hold dear,then lets all give thanks to God and to each other for all of it and resolve to fight back twice as hard to ensure we pass along our heritage of liberty to our kids and grandkids forever.

Walter,to you and yours a very special Thanksgiving,and to all of you everywhere out there,thank you for all you are doing to preserve liberty,have a great holiday!

“Live free or die tryin”

]]> by: Afella in VT http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-659322 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:31:49 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-659322 I happen to go to the MDAR website and found the following link to a "Nais Advisory" letter that came out on the 20th <a href="http://www.mass.gov/agr/animalhealth/docs/nais_advisory_11202007.pdf">link</a> <a href="http://www.mass.gov/agr/animalhealth/docs/nais_advisory_11202007.pdf" rel="nofollow">MDAR NAIS Advisory letter</a> The must have gotten a lot of negative responses regarding the timeliness of the delivery and the 30 vs 45 days (not to mention the bit about selling Mass farmers' information to the USDA in exchange for Cooperation grants). They in light of the typo and the delayed delivery they promise to honor the 45 days and allow opt outs until December 14th. Afella in VT I happen to go to the MDAR website and found the following link to a “Nais Advisory” letter that came out on the 20th

link

MDAR NAIS Advisory letter

The must have gotten a lot of negative responses regarding the timeliness of the delivery and the 30 vs 45 days (not to mention the bit about selling Mass farmers’ information to the USDA in exchange for Cooperation grants). They in light of the typo and the delayed delivery they promise to honor the 45 days and allow opt outs until December 14th.

Afella in VT

]]> by: Bob Constantine http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-659309 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:26:55 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-659309 Renee - Mary Zanoni indicated at a talk she gave in Vermont recently something similar had been happening in New York state. Pay attention it seems like "they" are really stretching "volunteer participation" again. Renee - Mary Zanoni indicated at a talk she gave in Vermont recently something similar had been happening in New York state. Pay attention it seems like “they” are really stretching “volunteer participation” again.

]]> by: Valerie http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-659119 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:45:27 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-659119 Page 2 of MDAR's letter did not show up... <i>[Fixed, I hope, try it now. -WJ]</i> Page 2 of MDAR’s letter did not show up…

[Fixed, I hope, try it now. -WJ]

]]> by: Renee Windward Traina http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-659067 Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:17:27 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/11/21/ma-playing-dirty-again/#comment-659067 I received my letter from the Mass.Department of Agricultural Resources about a week ago - dated October 30,2007. At first I pondered whether to shred it or use it to start the woodstove. I was glad I read through it. If you DON'T reply, they will send your "data" on to the USDA.(Not sure why they needed me to fill out a form for Massachusetts if they already have my information...) I had to send an e-mail to request that this not happen. Every penny they waste on this baloney just irritates the heck out of me. I received my letter from the Mass.Department of Agricultural Resources about a week ago - dated October 30,2007. At first I pondered whether to shred it or use it to start the woodstove. I was glad I read through it. If you DON’T reply, they will send your “data” on to the USDA.(Not sure why they needed me to fill out a form for Massachusetts if they already have my information…) I had to send an e-mail to request that this not happen. Every penny they waste on this baloney just irritates the heck out of me.

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