Comments on: UK Kill, Kill, Kill http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/ Protect our traditional rights to farm Thu, 17 May 2012 04:07:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Podchef http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-532778 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:02:49 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-532778 Lest we forget--many of the deaths in 2001 had nothing to do with FMD, or any disease. Rather, because of livestock movement restrictions and the time of year during the outbreaks, many animals had to be kept where they were. They could not be moved to the neighboring field, nor could feed be brought in. A majority of animals had to be put down for welfare reasons because they were starving to death, trapped in a farmyard, or over-grazed field. As we head into winter in these uncertain times we would all do well to think of where our livestock are and where their next meal is coming from, and how long that condition can last if they are at or away from homebase. Lest we forget–many of the deaths in 2001 had nothing to do with FMD, or any disease. Rather, because of livestock movement restrictions and the time of year during the outbreaks, many animals had to be kept where they were. They could not be moved to the neighboring field, nor could feed be brought in. A majority of animals had to be put down for welfare reasons because they were starving to death, trapped in a farmyard, or over-grazed field.

As we head into winter in these uncertain times we would all do well to think of where our livestock are and where their next meal is coming from, and how long that condition can last if they are at or away from homebase.

]]> by: Henwhisperer http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-532570 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:24:54 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-532570 Sometimes I hate the way the internet suddenly reveals information when one wasn't looking for it. In my disgust I cannot remember how I've come upon this new info about the UK FMD killings, but here it is anyway. A site called warmwell.com is "as the most reliable clearing-house for expert information on the FMD crisis," run by an ex-pat living in Bordeaux. Ok, here is what has me fuming: "September 27 ~ Blood tests from all 20 of the lambs with lesions have been taken. DEFRA had said results would be back late yesterday, however they are now expected this morning. (This posting at 2.00 pm ) We read that Farmers Weekly has been talking to the Berkshire farmer at the centre of the new temporary control zone. On Tuesday he found symptoms of orf. <b>(Regular warmwell readers will remember with pain the number of sheep and their contiguous neighbours who were killed in 2001 because vets mistook orf [foot rot]for FMD)</b> Mistook foot rot for FMD? Read the rest of it <a href="http://www.warmwell.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a> but be prepared to be pissed off. <a href="http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/features/footnmouth/norenq.html" rel="nofollow">And here</a> is FOREIGN VETS COULDN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FMD, ORF AND FOOT ROT from January 21, 2002. A tidbit to help you click through the link: "He found animals with blisters in their mouths, could not get a second opinion quickly enough, and Defra ordered an immediate slaughter. "The farmer had been spreading lime on the fields and that had caused the blisters in the animals' mouths," she said." Sometimes I hate the way the internet suddenly reveals information when one wasn’t looking for it. In my disgust I cannot remember how I’ve come upon this new info about the UK FMD killings, but here it is anyway. A site called warmwell.com is “as the most reliable clearing-house for expert information on the FMD crisis,” run by an ex-pat living in Bordeaux.

Ok, here is what has me fuming:

“September 27 ~ Blood tests from all 20 of the lambs with lesions have been taken. DEFRA had said results would be back late yesterday, however they are now expected this morning.
(This posting at 2.00 pm ) We read that Farmers Weekly has been talking to the Berkshire farmer at the centre of the new temporary control zone. On Tuesday he found symptoms of orf. (Regular warmwell readers will remember with pain the number of sheep and their contiguous neighbours who were killed in 2001 because vets mistook orf [foot rot]for FMD)

Mistook foot rot for FMD?

Read the rest of it
here
but be prepared to be pissed off.

And here
is FOREIGN VETS COULDN’T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FMD, ORF AND FOOT ROT from January 21, 2002. A tidbit to help you click through the link:
“He found animals with blisters in their mouths, could not get a second opinion quickly enough, and Defra ordered an immediate slaughter. “The farmer had been spreading lime on the fields and that had caused the blisters in the animals’ mouths,” she said.”

]]> by: Betty M. http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-524449 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:59:39 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-524449 Typical government bureaucratic over reaction to a sneeze. And they're the ones sneezing. I wish they would get it right and vaccinate. That is the solution. They have the vaccines. Typical government bureaucratic over reaction to a sneeze. And they’re the ones sneezing. I wish they would get it right and vaccinate. That is the solution. They have the vaccines.

]]> by: Doreen http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-523185 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:54:38 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-523185 USDA is Uncle Sam Destroying Agriculture. Same dang thing. It's a global deal. Before long we will see HMD (they have hooves, not feet...:) here. When we do, we're in for it big time. I hope the 'perception is reality' mindset of USDA does not prevail. reality is more akin to gravity than perception. All we need is the report of HMD or FMD and we're going to see England in '01 on a huge scale. USDA is Uncle Sam Destroying Agriculture. Same dang thing. It’s a global deal. Before long we will see HMD (they have hooves, not feet…:) here. When we do, we’re in for it big time. I hope the ‘perception is reality’ mindset of USDA does not prevail. reality is more akin to gravity than perception. All we need is the report of HMD or FMD and we’re going to see England in ‘01 on a huge scale.

]]> by: eileen http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-523072 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:37:25 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-523072 It is infuriating the government would kill off animals for FMD, as it is survivable. I marvel that the USDA thinks it can kill off the "susceptible"wildlife in a 10 kilometer zone. Wildlife tends to wander, and wolves and coyotes can carry diseases. Flying insects transmit many diseases such as Bluetoungue, so what is the government going to do, Napalm the kill zone? Check to see what your state pays for killing your stock. Mine pays $300.00 for a registered cow and $100.00 for a grade cow, according to the information I found on the state ag website. It is infuriating the government would kill off animals for FMD, as it is survivable. I marvel that the USDA thinks it can kill off the “susceptible”wildlife in a 10 kilometer zone. Wildlife tends to wander, and wolves and coyotes can carry diseases. Flying insects transmit many diseases such as Bluetoungue, so what is the government going to do, Napalm the kill zone? Check to see what your state pays for killing your stock. Mine pays $300.00 for a registered cow and $100.00 for a grade cow, according to the information I found on the state ag website.

]]> by: Diane http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-522855 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:24:00 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-522855 This is what I fear most about the government and nais. They will just come in and kill our livestock without reason. Then later they say oops we made a mistake, or they dont, and they "compensate" us with auction 'market' prices of $100 each for our valuable breeding stock. It is theft. Our constitution is supposed to protect us from the government but it doesnt. It is time to revolt again and put down this government before they finish enslaving us all. This is what I fear most about the government and nais. They will just come in and kill our livestock without reason. Then later they say oops we made a mistake, or they dont, and they “compensate” us with auction ‘market’ prices of $100 each for our valuable breeding stock. It is theft. Our constitution is supposed to protect us from the government but it doesnt. It is time to revolt again and put down this government before they finish enslaving us all.

]]> by: lane http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-522730 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:16:30 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-522730 In England the oversight is called DEFRA which stands for Department for Eradication of Farms and Rural Animals. They are all about big business and killing off the small farm holder. Farms need DEFRA like we need another hole in the head. You think the USDA is bad? DEFRA is worse. Much worst. In England the oversight is called DEFRA which stands for Department for Eradication of Farms and Rural Animals. They are all about big business and killing off the small farm holder. Farms need DEFRA like we need another hole in the head. You think the USDA is bad? DEFRA is worse. Much worst.

]]> by: Georgie B. http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-522723 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:13:55 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-522723 How can we fight this like they did in florida? Any details or article links to it? How can we fight this like they did in florida? Any details or article links to it?

]]> by: Yvonne Taylor http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-522545 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:37:57 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-522545 They used to do this with citrus trees in South Florida when a tree affected with citrus canker was found. They would kill citrus trees in a huge radius around it. Somebody successfully challenged this in recent history and they are no longer allowed to do this. They used to do this with citrus trees in South Florida when a tree affected with citrus canker was found. They would kill citrus trees in a huge radius around it. Somebody successfully challenged this in recent history and they are no longer allowed to do this.

]]> by: Texas Goat Gal http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-522385 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:50:37 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/09/23/uk-kill-kill-kill/#comment-522385 Tammy, how right you are. Here is the link for Mr. Paul's closing statement at the most recent debate. It is an excellent commentary and should rouse people who consider themselves members of either political party, or those, like me, who saw through that facade years ago. Also, on the link you gave, folks can find a "meet-up" group in their area for participating in meetings and functions. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRi8tswSkB4" rel="nofollow">link</a> Tammy, how right you are. Here is the link for Mr. Paul’s closing statement at the most recent debate. It is an excellent commentary and should rouse people who consider themselves members of either political party, or those, like me, who saw through that facade years ago. Also, on the link you gave, folks can find a “meet-up” group in their area for participating in meetings and functions.

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