Comments on: First Anti-NAIS Lawsuit Filed http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/ Protect our traditional rights to farm Thu, 17 May 2012 04:00:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Paul-Martin:Griepentrog http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-700659 Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:35:58 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-700659 Walter, I have been accepted as WI's representitive to the r-calf animal id commitee. I would be open to help or comments from the good folks at no-nais. Walter, I have been accepted as WI’s representitive to the r-calf animal id commitee. I would be open to help or comments from the good folks at no-nais.

]]> by: p griepentrog http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-485590 Sat, 08 Sep 2007 17:54:53 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-485590 You might want to check out "The last stand of the man from Shady Knoll Farms" on You Tube You might want to check out “The last stand of the man from Shady Knoll Farms” on You Tube

]]> by: p griepentrog http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-467511 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:21:45 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-467511 Equity Livestock Coop is now asking for premise ID numbers. Act 17 that created premise id require that anyone collecting information must be liscensed and contracted by the state and show the necessary security provisions to comply with state statute. The coop in the last year has failed to take the trucking out of the check once and mailed me a check issued to a trucking firm. Icould have cashed it but I sent it back. To honest I guess that why I don't fit in. Equity Livestock Coop is now asking for premise ID numbers. Act 17 that created premise id require that anyone collecting information must be liscensed and contracted by the state and show the necessary security provisions to comply with state statute. The coop in the last year has failed to take the trucking out of the check once and mailed me a check issued to a trucking firm. Icould have cashed it but I sent it back. To honest I guess that why I don’t fit in.

]]> by: Richard O. http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-334560 Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:20:52 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-334560 Re: Comment #19 Michigan, I would like very much to hear more about the three cases you mentioned. If you can provide links (etc.), all the better! Re: Comment #19 Michigan, I would like very much to hear more about the three cases you mentioned. If you can provide links (etc.), all the better!

]]> by: R W Smith http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-316914 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:31:10 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-316914 Does the Avian Influenza Monitoring program use a numbering system (account#, flock#,permit#, file#, etc)? Does the Avian Influenza Monitoring program use a numbering system (account#, flock#,permit#, file#, etc)?

]]> by: The Phantom http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-304331 Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:31:12 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-304331 #19 could you tell us more re: the 2 horse issues and 1 cattle issue that you mentioned? Is this just for Michigan? #19 could you tell us more re: the 2 horse issues and 1 cattle issue that you mentioned? Is this just for Michigan?

]]> by: Michigan http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-303969 Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:24:18 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-303969 This is one more example of our rights as tax paying citizens being denigrated. It is happening all over the country. Some small cases, some huge cases! We have at least 3 big cases. 2 involve horses. 1 involves cattle. All 3 to the best of my knowledge are overbearing government officials trying to intimidate, coerse and harrass folks into a tree hugging, PETA supporting stance and way of life. I hope it does get to a class action lawsuit. If we as citizens do not stand up for ourselves who will? By the people and for the people. What ever happened to this notion? This is one more example of our rights as tax paying citizens being denigrated.

It is happening all over the country. Some small cases, some huge cases!

We have at least 3 big cases. 2 involve horses. 1 involves cattle. All 3 to the best of my knowledge are overbearing government officials trying to intimidate, coerse and harrass folks into a tree hugging, PETA supporting stance and way of life.

I hope it does get to a class action lawsuit.

If we as citizens do not stand up for ourselves who will? By the people and for the people. What ever happened to this notion?

]]> by: LEE http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-303687 Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:44:56 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-303687 HA! what a bunch of liars!I know they think we are stupid but this is rich. An error?? these PDA goons knew exactly what they were doing and planned to keep doing it until MR. Landis bit them back, and they never would have quit if he hadn't,unfortunatly they will just change tactics, PDA doesn't want this sort of thing on their plate so they claim "It was an error" ya right! They send out stuff like this all the time and see if folks are gullible enough to sign up,if they do they gottcha,if not then they "infer" that you will not be able to "participate" in something else without this number,and as far as it is a number from Mordor I can agree it is a mark of a beast,a sick twisted beast that eats its victims whole after shredding their lives. That said, I am pleased to see them admit that they can not force participation in this "voluntary federal program", Now maybe someone who recieved a premise ID # against their will can file a lawsuit against them and /or the group that made them get a number to be able to show at the fair or at a show or get-together someplace, folks in Wis.(or any place that made you participate)this may give you some ammo,after all it has been spoken out of the ag dept of Pa. that they can't force you in,seems to me no one else can either, maybe Mr. Landis will go forward with his suit and it can be established that people can not be forced to do this,it could help. PDA is wanting this program very much,and a defeat handed to PDA would reverberate all the way to Mordor on the Potamic. My personal thanks to all who worked to help stop this thus far,thanks! "Live free or die tryin" HA! what a bunch of liars!I know they think we are stupid but this is rich.

An error?? these PDA goons knew exactly what they were doing and planned to keep doing it until MR. Landis bit them back, and they never would have quit if he hadn’t,unfortunatly they will just change tactics,

PDA doesn’t want this sort of thing on their plate so they claim “It was an error” ya right!

They send out stuff like this all the time and see if folks are gullible enough to sign up,if they do they gottcha,if not then they “infer” that you will not be able to “participate” in something else without this number,and as far as it is a number from Mordor I can agree it is a mark of a beast,a sick twisted beast that eats its victims whole after shredding their lives.

That said, I am pleased to see them admit that they can not force participation in this “voluntary federal program”,

Now maybe someone who recieved a premise ID # against their will can file a lawsuit against them and /or the group that made them get a number to be able to show at the fair or at a show or get-together someplace,

folks in Wis.(or any place that made you participate)this may give you some ammo,after all it has been spoken out of the ag dept of Pa. that they can’t force you in,seems to me no one else can either,

maybe Mr. Landis will go forward with his suit and it can be established that people can not be forced to do this,it could help.

PDA is wanting this program very much,and a defeat handed to PDA would reverberate all the way to Mordor on the Potamic.

My personal thanks to all who worked to help stop this thus far,thanks!

“Live free or die tryin”

]]> by: Podchef http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-303592 Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:09:58 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-303592 I hope James Landis doesn't drop his suit. He needs to pursue it to the end. The fact doesn't change that they have trampled his rights--whether it was and "error" or not. Saying they "realized the error only after the department was sued" is like saying you didn't realize it would be wrong to pull a fire alarm when there was no fire, until after the bell was ringing. It's a shame we have to have our rights violated at all in order to have any sort of justice in this world. Here's to hoping Ag Departments around the country back down so easily when faced with the overwhelming reality-- no one that matters wants NAIS! I hope James Landis doesn’t drop his suit. He needs to pursue it to the end. The fact doesn’t change that they have trampled his rights–whether it was and “error” or not.

Saying they “realized the error only after the department was sued” is like saying you didn’t realize it would be wrong to pull a fire alarm when there was no fire, until after the bell was ringing.

It’s a shame we have to have our rights violated at all in order to have any sort of justice in this world.

Here’s to hoping Ag Departments around the country back down so easily when faced with the overwhelming reality– no one that matters wants NAIS!

]]> by: Barbara http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-303492 Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:20:58 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/06/22/first-anti-nais-lawsuit-filed/#comment-303492 It was no error on PDA's part. They knew this would happen, but proceeded anyway. Saying it was an error is damage control. They finally realized this could blow up in their face. It was no error on PDA’s part. They knew this would happen, but proceeded anyway. Saying it was an error is damage control. They finally realized this could blow up in their face.

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