Comments on: VT Legislature Promotes Small Farms http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/ Protect our traditional rights to farm Thu, 17 May 2012 03:54:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Mary H http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-110280 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 03:56:23 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-110280 "Menu Foods recalled 60 million containers of cat and dog food earlier this month" ... "<i>for</i> a 10 cent price difference in Chinese wheat gluten vs American." So, Menu Foods, how's the 10 cent price difference stacking up now?!!! Talk about penny-wise and pounds (dollar) foolish! “Menu Foods recalled 60 million containers of cat and dog food earlier this month” … “for a 10 cent price difference in Chinese wheat gluten vs American.”

So, Menu Foods, how’s the 10 cent price difference stacking up now?!!! Talk about penny-wise and pounds (dollar) foolish!

]]> by: Carolyn S. http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-100261 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 03:48:30 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-100261 If I won the lottery today, I'd move to Vermont tomorrow! The "no's' still have the polls. Poor brainwashed America. If I won the lottery today, I’d move to Vermont tomorrow!
The “no’s’ still have the polls. Poor brainwashed America.

]]> by: Henwhisperer http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-100006 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:17:25 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-100006 Seitan, used by many vegans and vegetarians, IS wheat gluten. Other items that could contain wheat gluten include: toothpaste Additives Artificial flavorings Caramel color Colorings and dyes Dextrins Emulsifiers &#38; softeners Hydrolyzed plant protein Hydrolyzed vegetable protein Malt Vinegar Mono- &#38; di-glycerides Natural flavorings Preservatives Spices (anti-caking agents) Starches, modified food starches I'm looking for a more complete list. Seitan, used by many vegans and vegetarians, IS wheat gluten.

Other items that could contain wheat gluten include:
toothpaste
Additives
Artificial flavorings
Caramel color
Colorings and dyes
Dextrins
Emulsifiers & softeners
Hydrolyzed plant protein
Hydrolyzed vegetable protein
Malt Vinegar
Mono- & di-glycerides
Natural flavorings
Preservatives
Spices (anti-caking agents)
Starches, modified food starches

I’m looking for a more complete list.

]]> by: Podchef http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-99617 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:12:10 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-99617 What I took away from <a href="http://capitalpress.com/Main.asp?SectionID=94&#38;ArticleID=31322" rel="nofollow">this</a> Capital Press article most was that this all happened for a 10 cent price difference in Chinese wheat gluten vs American. 10 Cents a &#38;*&#38;!@# pound less! What about the cost of shipping, the fuel, the farmers who grew the wheat? Further blame falls squarely on the misplaced shoulders of the Ethanol Boom. Why? Our great and wondrous Corn-Based fuel solution has jacked up the cost of all feed commodities. Many of the grains I buy have become more expensive--oats, barley, wheat bran--and hard to come by. While this is probably a temporary rise in cost (Bush and his Brazilian Sugarcane dealings will hurt American Corn Farmers right out of their ethanol high) to head overseas for a ten cent price difference is criminal. You really have to wonder if American food industries who use wheat gluten are paying attention or if this could happen to people food. Do Egg Roll wrappers contain wheat gluten. . . ? What I took away from this Capital Press article most was that this all happened for a 10 cent price difference in Chinese wheat gluten vs American. 10 Cents a &*&!@# pound less! What about the cost of shipping, the fuel, the farmers who grew the wheat?

Further blame falls squarely on the misplaced shoulders of the Ethanol Boom. Why? Our great and wondrous Corn-Based fuel solution has jacked up the cost of all feed commodities. Many of the grains I buy have become more expensive–oats, barley, wheat bran–and hard to come by. While this is probably a temporary rise in cost (Bush and his Brazilian Sugarcane dealings will hurt American Corn Farmers right out of their ethanol high) to head overseas for a ten cent price difference is criminal.

You really have to wonder if American food industries who use wheat gluten are paying attention or if this could happen to people food. Do Egg Roll wrappers contain wheat gluten. . . ?

]]> by: Sue F http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-99297 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:54:32 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-99297 Think of the size of Menu foods. They would be buying tons and tons of wheat to produce 95 brands. If it were a few random bait traps swept up in the shipping it would have been diluted down to harmless. Something else happened. This could so easily happen to a human food supply. Nobody is watching and just worried about the bottom line. Some serious problems with our food supply. Think of the size of Menu foods. They would be buying tons and tons of wheat to produce 95 brands. If it were a few random bait traps swept up in the shipping it would have been diluted down to harmless. Something else happened.

This could so easily happen to a human food supply. Nobody is watching and just worried about the bottom line.

Some serious problems with our food supply.

]]> by: Sue F http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-99289 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:45:05 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-99289 Beginner Farmers NH has an MPU that can be rented out. Cost is cheap. It's small and contained in an old horse trailer. Works slick! Beginner Farmers NH has an MPU that can be rented out. Cost is cheap. It’s small and contained in an old horse trailer. Works slick!

]]> by: Bob Constantine http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-98752 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:48:03 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-98752 Another "yes" vote here...if more people knew what goes on in "factory farms" and understood that the "inspection process" is a farce and can't possibly be controlled due to the production speed and human greed etc. they'd vote yes too. Government Inspection = OXYMORON...sort of like government efficiency "They" don't want local food to become the norm as it used to be...my grandmother used to bring fresh chickens into town over 60 years ago and earn her pocket money that way, she'd probably get out the rolling pin for the NAISTY Feds if she were still alive! Another “yes” vote here…if more people knew what goes on in “factory farms” and understood that the “inspection
process” is a farce and can’t possibly be controlled due to the production speed and human greed etc. they’d vote yes too.

Government Inspection = OXYMORON…sort of like government efficiency

“They” don’t want local food to become the norm as it used to be…my grandmother used to bring fresh chickens into town
over 60 years ago and earn her pocket money that way, she’d probably get out the rolling pin for the NAISTY Feds if she were still alive!

]]> by: Podchef http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-98729 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:14:10 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-98729 Gotcha just Got Me. I am pulling hard for VT Farmers on this one. I guess, Henwhisperer, I was thinking of local, community, private grants which sometimes come up for rural community development, rather than Govt. grants which I abhor. I have studied aging rooms in Irish Country House Hotels quite a bit. Specialty poultry rooms, rooms for Lamb, Mutton, Pork and Beef. I think hanging and customer service may be the biggest snags in on-farm slaughter. Farm Shops and a central meat locker, or at least a generous local farmer with a large walk-in cooler are some what of a necessity. I plan on building one someday myself. I feel grass-fed meats need long aging at proper temps. Beef--4 weeks, lamb 2 weeks at least, mutton longer. Pork can hang for 4 days and be greatly improved and pastured poultry isn't done any harm by a few days hanging--after all we hang pheasants and the like. But this is for grass-fed meat, not commercially raised animals which would putrify if you tried to age them decently. Now excuse me while I get back to looking through the listings of the VLT. . . . Gotcha just Got Me.

I am pulling hard for VT Farmers on this one. I guess, Henwhisperer, I was thinking of local, community, private grants which sometimes come up for rural community development, rather than Govt. grants which I abhor.

I have studied aging rooms in Irish Country House Hotels quite a bit. Specialty poultry rooms, rooms for Lamb, Mutton, Pork and Beef. I think hanging and customer service may be the biggest snags in on-farm slaughter.

Farm Shops and a central meat locker, or at least a generous local farmer with a large walk-in cooler are some what of a necessity. I plan on building one someday myself. I feel grass-fed meats need long aging at proper temps. Beef–4 weeks, lamb 2 weeks at least, mutton longer. Pork can hang for 4 days and be greatly improved and pastured poultry isn’t done any harm by a few days hanging–after all we hang pheasants and the like. But this is for grass-fed meat, not commercially raised animals which would putrify if you tried to age them decently.

Now excuse me while I get back to looking through the listings of the VLT. . . .

]]> by: Henwhisperer http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-98470 Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:24:01 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-98470 For Podchef: No grants, no grants. Taking grants from the government makes you beholden in other ways. No grants. It makes more sense, and is more self-sufficient, to have farmers pool their money. That is a good idea! For Podchef: No grants, no grants. Taking grants from the government makes you beholden in other ways. No grants. It makes more sense, and is more self-sufficient, to have farmers pool their money. That is a good idea!

]]> by: Gisela http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-98089 Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:38:39 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2007/03/25/vt-legislature-promotes-small-farms/#comment-98089 Whats the difference they hardley inspect our food as it is, if they did there would not be any RECALLS. Our pet industry is Self Policed, we use to be able eat our food with the assurance our food was safe, but now you need to burn it in order to eat it. I voted yes... Whats the difference they hardley inspect our food as it is, if they did there would not be any RECALLS. Our pet industry is Self Policed, we use to be able eat our food with the assurance our food was safe, but now you need to burn it in order to eat it.
I voted yes…

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