Please contact your state veterinarian and ask them if they would continue pushing for mandatory premises identification if there was no funding from the federal government.
Please email me a copy of their response (with full email headers if you know how) and also post the following short form response in the comments:
State, Answer (Y/N/M/U/?), email/name
FL, ?, 10/26/06, Tom Holt
GA, N?, 10/25/06, Carter Black
KY, Y, 10/31/2006, Robert Stout
MN, N, 10/31/2006, Ted Radintz
ND, ?, 10/26/2006, Susan Keller
NH, Y, 10/28/2006, Clifford Mcginnis
NY, ?, 10/25/2006, John Huntley
TX, Y, 10/26/06, Bob Hillman
VT, Y, 10/25/06, Kerry Rood
WA, ?, 11/10/06, L Eldridge, Leonard
WV, Y, 10/25/06, Joe Starcher
Answer Key:
- Y = Yes
- N = No
- M = Maybe
- U = Unsure
- ? = No Response yet (date queried)
If you can provide the information like that I’ll summarize it alphabetically by state here within the article in addition to it appearing in the comments. By putting the date you ask the question like above we’ll know which states have been queried and when. A failure to respond within a reasonable period (a week?) indicates more followup is needed.
You can find your state vets on your state department of agriculture page or in this list.
This will create a list which will be handy for the NVIS (National Veterinarian Identification System). A similar system should be developed for politicians - the National Politician Identification System (NPIS). Maybe a system for bureaucrats (NBIS), etc. We could have the home address, GPS coordinates, social security number, views, movement tracking and other information of government employees all collected together in a central database. This could be used for public safety in the event of terrorist attack, disease or government over reach.
If they give a complex answer, feel free to post that or a summary in the comments after the above formatted short response.
Here is a sample of my letter to Dr. Kerry Rood, the Vermont State Veterinarian:
Dear Dr. Rood,
If there were no federal funding for the program would the Vermont Department of Agriculture push for mandatory Premises Identification?
If you’re not the right person to answer this, please do let me know who I should contact at the AoA.
Thank you,
Walter
Sugar Mountain Farm
Orange, Vermont
Pastured Pigs & Sheep
A summary of Dr. Rood’s response is:
Vermont is not pushing for mandatory Animal ID, because it was promised by Vermont Agency of Agriculture (AoA) Secretary Steve Kerr that we would not have Animal ID here in Vermont. On the withdrawal of the Premises ID the original concern was privacy in the face of Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests. Even with a privatized database or legislative protection from FOIA there is the concern of database security in the face of court orders. The Vermont AoA will continue to push for mandatory Premises Registration (Premises ID) independently of the USDA with or without federal funding because they feel it is necessary for communications with the people who have livestock and an important part of planning responses to disease outbreaks.
~Dr. Kerry Rood, State Veternarian for Vermont
This is also an interesting question to ask of candidates who are pro-NAIS. If people care to ask the same question of candidates then I’ll create a similar list. Use comments to submit responses in both cases.
The reason I wonder is:
- The USDA is using federal grants to get the states to participate in the USDA’s proposed National Animal Identification System (NAIS).
- The USDA lacks the funds to do full inspection of processing plants so they don’t.
- The FDA lacks the funds to complete a study on ADD medication so they won’t.
- The federal government is underfunding “No Child Left Behind” and special education which puts an unfunded mandate burden on states and local property tax payers and creates great resentment.
- Congress cut off the funding for horse slaughter inspection to stop the USDA on that. Not sure if it is really working though.
- Our highway system and bridges which were built about 50 to 60 years ago are getting to the end of their life-span and in need of replacement. That will cost a pretty penny and some states are selling off public roads to pay for it.
- Vermont’s AoA has said there will be no cost to premises owners here in Vermont.
- Our government is in a severe budget deficit and it keeps getting worse.
- Despite appearances, money does not grow on trees.
- The housing bubble is bursting.
- Recession is threatening.
- Inflation is increasing.
- People’s debt is high.
One wonders where the money is going to come from to fund the ongoing costs of NAIS and if there is no funding how will the feds push it on unenthusiastic states?
NAIS benefits big business. NAIS is being paid for with our tax dollars. Would states go down the rabbit hole without that carrot? Ask…
Further reading:
Hat tip: Celeste for the state vets list.
Bad news from WV. Not sure I know how to respond to his curt response “it’s an animal health issue” and I want to know more about WV’s reasons for this posture. We deserve to understand why they feel they need to know so much about how and why I run my own home and personal business. Sent out emails to WV politicians and did get one response from Nick Rahall (Dem congressman) that was positive. Said he would look into it. It’s a small step but at least someone is thinking about how some feel about this intrusion when he’s in DC.
Comment Cindy Greene — October 25, 2006 @ 9:54 am
This is a link to another survey Henwhisperer found:
Organic Consumers Fund
Candidate Survey
You can just click and have this survey sent to the political candidates in your own state.
Comment Breederville — October 25, 2006 @ 12:13 pm
I sent in an email to Burke Healey as well as to the OK Vet Medical Board. I will post responses when I get them.
Barb L.
Oklahoma
Comment Barbara in Oklahoma — October 25, 2006 @ 1:05 pm
I would further encourage people to re-contact those state officials who have given unacceptable or incomplete answers. I just wrote a letter letting Kerry Rood know what I though of the idea of unfunded mandatory premises ID. If enough people contact him, maybe he can be ‘convinced’ to rethink the issue and find more productive use of the states time and money.
Afella in VT
Comment Afella in VT — October 25, 2006 @ 2:35 pm
Here is the response from our Georgia State Vet………….
The Premises Registration is not mandatory. The entire program is voluntary. The Georgia Department of Agriculture sees the need for animal identification and traceability of animals for disease outbreaks and will continue to try to register premises.
C. Carter Black, III, DVM
Associate State Veterinarian
Georgia Department of Agriculture
19 MLK Jr. Drive Room 103
Atlanta, GA 30334
Phone: 404-656-3667
Fax: 404-651-9024
email: cblack@agr.state.ga.us
Anyone want to take him on? It’s voluntary? yeah right until 2009 then it will be crammed down your throat! Comply or else.
Comment Goatster — October 25, 2006 @ 3:40 pm
Regarding your comment:
“Congress cut off the funding for horse slaughter inspection to stop the USDA on that. Not sure if it is really working though.”
I have the answer for you on this. It is NOT working. The 3 equine slaughterhouses in the USDA now pay the inspectors privately. A number of angry letters were sent to the USDA by Congressman who supported this amendment but the USDA claims Congress can not regulate them in this manner.
Will write to the State Vet in NY and send you the response.
Comment Karen — October 25, 2006 @ 6:22 pm
Hmm… Congress could cut them off at the knees…
Comment walterj — October 25, 2006 @ 6:40 pm
WalterJ. and Everyone, please ALL, join the NEW NoNAIS group, at the following link:
Walter, would be so kind as to put the new group link on your web site. Thank you Sir.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Animals_Club_Freedom/
Please read it’s description, and it is a National fighting group.
Thank you…
Comment DeanAFOSI (IOWA) — October 25, 2006 @ 6:58 pm
“The Georgia Department of Agriculture sees the need for animal identification and traceability of animals for disease outbreaks and will continue to try to register premises.”
Sounds like what the PA DoA told us at our meeting - they would continue premise ID even if NAIS fails.
Isn’t it amazing (dripping sarcasm here) how all 50 states and 8(?) tribes all came to the same conclusion at the same time that animal ID would somehow protect us from disease by tracking where it was two days ago? They must have a time machine.
Comment Barbara — October 25, 2006 @ 7:52 pm
That’s outrageous! I thought the horse slaughter was ended! I’m getting on the horn tout de suite about this one. Oh, and if you have the e-mail addresses, write to Greenpeace because they were really active in getting that funding cut.
And the e-mail I tried to send to my state vet (FL) got bounced by mailer-demon. I’m going to try to find another e-mail address.
Comment Rachael — October 25, 2006 @ 8:57 pm
The person in the position may have changed. Try your state page here:
https://www.sd.gov/
which leads to a page that looks really obnoxious as it wants you to become a registered user before they will help you.
Click on the link in the lower left:
http://www.state.sd.us/
That’s a bit better. From there in the menu for government you can get to agriculture:
http://www.state.sd.us/doa/
In the lower left there is a link for staff and in the upper right there is a link for contact. Try those.
Interestingly, they have a web page listing all of the state department of ag web pages:
http://www.state.sd.us/doa/department/
so from there one can find the department of ag web page for Alaska, Vermont, etc.
Cheers,
-Walter
Comment walterj — October 26, 2006 @ 6:18 am
The email to the Idaho vet bounced, no reason given. Will try again.
Tinybabe in Idaho, would you email me? Thanks! Pat
[The personnel change time to time and they also simply change their email addresses, perhaps to cut down on email, perhaps because a new system was put in place. If they have good policy and good information technologists (IT = geeks) then the geeks will setup forwarding so the old email address goes to the new address so constituents and consumers can continue to reach them. But life is not always so good. If the mail is bouncing back, try checking the state ag department web site for a new address, use Google to find the email address like this example or just use the contact form or email address on the state ag department web site. Last resort is phone if nothing else works. Cheers, -WalterJ]
Comment Patricia Hampton — October 26, 2006 @ 10:46 am
Found out that since the list of state vets on the WA DOA page, the state vet of FL has changed at least twice… So the same kind of thing may have happened elsewhere. I did get ahold of an amiable fellow, named Dr. Jeter, at the FL DOA… He had this to say:
Rachael, I will refer you to Dr. Tom Holt (holtt@doacs.state.fl.us),
state veterinarian and Stephen Monroe, (monores@doacs.state.fl.us),
State NAIS Coordinator. Thanks for contacting us regarding your question. Dr. Jeter
So I have e-mailed Dr. Holt with the question and am expecting a response. If I haven’t gotten one by the end of the day on Monday, I’ll e-mail Mr. Monroe, but I can imagine the response I’ll get considering his job title.
Comment Rachael — October 26, 2006 @ 3:53 pm
Has anyone heard anything about the Granny Warrior protest in Virginia on 10/24? Checked their website real quick and didn’t see an update… Just noticed the challenge question to prove I’m not a spambot. Thank you for keeping it simple Walter, 2 + 1 was my question, any harder and I’d have been in trouble, I’ve never been accused of being the next Einstein. As an additional filter maybe you should ask a question or two about our bill of rights it would probably keep certain gov’t. officials from posting to this sight since they obviously aren’t familiar with that document!
Comment Bob Constantine — October 26, 2006 @ 6:38 pm
Walter,
Help clear up what you meant by “congress cut off Horse Slaughter inspection” please.
Do you mean that they caved in to pressure from the AR groups to bring about the end of all USDA horse slaughtering, or that they stopped plugging for the AR groups and are still going to allow horse slaughter?
I know this is an emotionally charged issue. There are many people who think that horse slaughter is a cruel thing to do to pets, etc. Equally there is the camp which says it shouldn’t matter, if there is a demand than there should be a market.
However, this issue goes beyond that. Despite how you feel about horses, horse meat, or the word slaughter you still need to consider the idea of allowing humane slaughtering (harvesting, killing, butchering, whatevering) of horses. Unwanted horses are a valid source of protein–whether for rich and Hoity-Toity foreigners (or locals for that matter) or for the poor who can’t afford anything else in a time of desperation, like we have undergone many times in the last century.
If we, as a nation, allow a group of well meaning and passionate activists (or malcontent, disruptive terrorists, aka HSUS, PETA, ALF. . .) tell us what we can and cannot eat and allow them to get congressional backing for it, then it is a dark day. What will be next? Pork, Beef, Goat, Chicken, Rabbit? Which of the universes Furry Creatures is next to be limited from slaughter or consumption? Guniea Pigs, Mice? Hey, people better than I eat them. . .
This world, this country needs less regulation and more education. We need to actually enforce the draconian regulations already on the books not come up with more and new regs that the big-boys will still refuse to follow, all the while forcing the rest of us off the map.
Rather than turn our attention to Horse Slaughter, which is a huge waste of time, given the percentage of it which really goes on, Congress and the Activists need to be crying out against factory farming and the industrial agricultural complex. Not only for the sake of the animals we eat, and the food they provide us, but for the poor, broken souls who are enslaved to bring it to us (and don’t say it’s their choice to work in the industry. They have no choice, the welfare system often makes them work there first.)
Should we stop raising animals, stop eating meat, free our animal breathren like the AR people want us to? Or should we demand that the system be overhauled to the point that people like us (and here I am thinking of myself, walter and anyone else here who raises pastured meats) have half a chance of bringing humanely treated, healthy, purposeful meats to the market place?
Whether you agree with the consumption of Raw Milk, Foie Gras, Horsemeat, chicken, goat or pig or not everyone should have the choice to partake of it provided it is raised to humane (a ridiculously loaded word these days) and natural standards. Otherwise we should just pack it in right now because more and more of our rights will be taken away until we have no real choice in anything.
[My understanding is that the horse owners who object to the idea of their horses being eaten have fought to have horse slaughter stopped in the USA. I don’t have horses and I don’t know a whole lot about this topic, just peripherally from what people had mentioned and what I have read in the news. My reference to the topic in the recent article was that although Congress cut off funding I have read that the USDA went ahead with inspecting anyways. Ergo, will cutting off funding be a useful tool against NAIS? I hope so. You will notice I did not raise the question of the taste of horses, ethics or morality - merely the funding/non-funding tool. -WJ]
Comment Podchef — October 26, 2006 @ 6:46 pm
I can’t get a response from the state vet about a sheep test required on a North Dakota health certificate. I think they are too busy getting ready for the “Animal Identification Systems Action Summit”, November 7 from 7:30am - 4:00pm at Dickenson State University.
I heard our Senator Dorgan say on AM radio this morning that ranchers and livestock producers were encouraged to come to the summit and contribute their input. The radio announcer pointed out that the ’summit’ requires prior registration. Senator Dorgan didn’t seem to know about that even though he is co-hosting the event.
Stopped by Dorgan’s office this afternoon in Bismarck. No one in the office knew anything. I did ask for a copy of the agenda. I’ll see if I can’t scan the thing & send it along. North Dakota’s ‘Research Corridor’ in Fargo is on the ground floor of the technology and everyone is all for whatever brings money into the state.
NDIDSummit
Comment donna — October 26, 2006 @ 9:25 pm
a GREAT WRITE UP IN USA TODAY
people are listening!
link
[Unfortunately they put this web site as “non-ais.org” which won’t work. I have just purchased that domain to point here but it will take a few days. Even so, this is a major thing getting into the mainstream media! Cheers, -WalterJ]
Comment cindy greene — October 27, 2006 @ 11:24 am
You are quite right, Podchef, in all you said. I totally agree with you, even though it was a bit of a tangent. Though we shouldn’t go too far with tangents, one now and then is OK.
God Bless
Comment Goatman — October 27, 2006 @ 12:21 pm
In regards to #17. I have been at this for nearly a year, and this is the first national news coverage I know of on NAIS. This is fantastic news.
Comment Goatster — October 27, 2006 @ 1:15 pm
As a horse breeder and life long horse lover, I just have to add my two cents on horse slaughter. I find the very idea of eating horses disgusting, barbaric and sickening, BUT if horse slaughter is stopped, what will happen to the thousands of unwanted horses that go to slaughter? Will they be left to slowly die of starvation? I really think we need to concentrate on humane treatment and handling of slaughter animals rather leaving creatures we love to starve in uncaring or incapable hands.
Comment Patricia Hampton — October 27, 2006 @ 4:27 pm
FYI Everybody, in today’s USA Today (10/27/06) there was an article about NAIS, it was written by Mimi Hall. It was titled “Animal ID plan angers some farmers” The article mentions this website and others, it also details where the Maine State Vet, Don Hoenig was “pied” with horse manure pies at a meeting in April….In the article Hoenig admitted he couldn’t counter the unconstitutionality of Nais (well duh!!) Mary Zanoni was quoted too. One part I wasn’t sure of was the accuracy of the USDA propaganda that crept into the article… Walter I’m no good at e-mail, but if you’d like I can send a photo copy of the article via Snail Mail to you, if you haven’t already read it. There may be some points in the article that need correcting by somebody better informed than me. Anyhow it’s good to see some press !!
Comment Bob Constantine — October 27, 2006 @ 7:08 pm
….In the article Hoenig admitted he couldn’t counter the unconstitutionality of Nais (well duh!!)
Right! And then he added “give me the tools to work with”.
In other words, give up your rights now to save time later.
I don’t think so!
Comment Barbara — October 27, 2006 @ 7:51 pm
You nailed it Barbara the “tools” are your rights.
Comment Goatster — October 28, 2006 @ 6:49 am
Absolutely right, Patricia! That’s why we are fighting NAIS. So that the small farmers and livestock owners can stay alive. If all horses were in the care of the factory farms, you can be sure that they wouldn’t be treated or handled gently and respectfully. All the old ones would be either starved to death or slaughtered in a very barbaric manner. We are the ones who know how to take care of God’s creatures in the right way.
Comment Goatman — October 28, 2006 @ 11:21 am
maybe a little off, but good to know…
An AP wire article appeared in The Manchester Union Leader on 10/27 (N.H.’s largest newspaper). It mentioned wild pigs may have caused the recent e-coli / spinach outbreak. While it wasn’t conclusive yet, it’s good to know because pro NAIS persons will use any “reason” they can to justify why we need their insidious plan. Taking away the “maybe unregistered domestic animals did it” angle won’t hurt. I guess using the flawed logic of the USDA if those nasty wild pigs had only been tagged and premise registered they would have known not to do their business in the spinach field and we all would be safer. How dare those animals be wild and not in any federal database! What next bears sh–ting in the woods without a permit?
Comment Bob Constantine — October 28, 2006 @ 7:46 pm
Don’t forget that just a few weeks before the ecoli outbreak the FDA approved the use of a virus spray to use on lunchmeat, chicken and PRODUCE. The virus spray kills ecoli and other food borne bacteria. Call me jaded, but I see the recent outbreaks as marketing strategy. “Whew! Good thing we’ve just come out with a new virus spray that will help in a situation just like this.”
One thing we’ve learned in our anti-NAIS work, nothing is as it appears to be. The government will stop at nothing to boost up it’s own agenda.
My 2 cents for the morning.
Comment Henwhisperer — October 29, 2006 @ 6:05 am
Speaking of costs - If the NAIS plan is for food safety and protection of the public - shouldn’t the government be obligated to pay for it. If not paying in cash, at the very least it should be paid for in the form of a direct tax credit given to those who pay for the compliance burden. Even if paid for by the govenrment, there is little scientific basis that I can see to believe there is anything at all positive that would come from NAIS or premise registration - except to allow a few argi-giants to profit from some foreign sales.
On cost to consumers, I had the pleasure of working with some British guys the last couple of weeks. They said they are all tending to buy organic meat and vegetables and from local producers since it is safer - even though it costs a bit more. What a concept! And something that could become close to impossible under USDA’s NAIS plan. If for no other reason than all the small producers would be put out of business.
I wrote to Mr. Webb, running for Senate in Virginia, several weeks ago asking about his NAIS poistion, no response as yet. Wrote to the Virginia state vet today.
Comment Charles Thurber — October 29, 2006 @ 5:42 pm
NAIS isn’t for food safety or to protect the public. That’s just what they want you to think - (that warm, fuzzy feeling I’ve referred to before).
What they say it is for is to track disease and improve trade.
What it’s really for is to take complete control of the market.
Comment Barbara — October 29, 2006 @ 7:50 pm
I went and read the online article at USA Today by Mimi Hall on NAIS. Seemed to be a little naive about a lot of the information. They had the spelling corrected in reference to the nonais.org site. I went up to their “contact us” and left a comment that they should have Ms Hall do a follow up on the 6 mile kill zone in the GAO (pp 31-36) on the USDA’s plan of action. And that most of the producers that this kill zone will economically help is actually only about 8% of the “producers” and only those that actually export.
Rhonda 1+3
Comment Rhonda — October 29, 2006 @ 9:58 pm
KY,10/31/2006,Y,robert.stout@ky.gov
They are pushing for mandatory registration of all premises starting January 2006.
It must be approved by the legislature, and is before the legislature now for approval.
Comment Patrick Weber — October 31, 2006 @ 7:25 am
MN answer to having the state fund NAIS without Federal assistance was “Probably not in its current form”.
Whatever that means?
Comment LuAnn — October 31, 2006 @ 11:04 am
Dr. Becky Brewer-Walker Oklahoma State Vet was at a meeting which a state rep. was also attending pushing NAIS and telling the reps the cost of tags were Fifteen cents, only needed when the animal left for sale off the place or the packing plant. He knows the actual documents backwards and forwards and when she was quized said his information was wrong and the usual got misinformation that is out there…yada, yada, yada. He knows he was not wrong and was not allowed to go on….
anyway, she was pushing NAIS and telling how wonderful it was and yada, yada, yada. So stay on your representatives because if they think 15 cents is all it will cost you then they can be snookered.
Here are the actual costs from those attending the Extension Service Meeting In Arkansas… for cattle only, not counting reporting fees, computer costs and high speed dial up.
I just attended a field day sponsored by the Yell County Extension Service and the Yell County Cattlemen’s ssociation.
About 25 people were in attendance out on the farm where we learned about tagging (chipping) our cattle, record keeping and nutrition. I
found the meeting worth the time and expense to attend.
Here is some information that you may not have. Software for the computer to keep the cattle records costs from $125 to $600.
The wands used to read the ear tags once cost about $100, but now cost from $600 upward. They will read at a maximum of 6 to 8 inches.
They can be hooked directly into the computer at the barn, or store the information collected at the barn and then you can transfer it
into the computer once you reach the house.
To purchase the ear tags, one will be required to have a Farm Premises Identification, if the NAIS becomes mandatory.
The ear tag has numbers on it that you can read and numbers
embedded within the chip. These numbers are only the animal identification number. Your Farm Premises identification number (and
the annual fee for that number - my note) is not included in the tag.
For example, if your animal was out on the highway, the only way that the animal could be traced back to you would be to determine the brand of the tag, read the numbers, contact the company selling the tags, who would then go through their records to determine to
what premise owner they sold the tag that had that number.
I am sure you can see many reasons why this is such an illogical and expensive way to track animals. It was all that I could do to keep from handing out flyers and our Yell County meeting announcement. It was obvious that most of the people there wanted no part of a mandatory NAIS.
I talked with Dr. Troxel about Arkansas animal exports and his suggestions as to where I could find those statistics, since I have not been able to find any. He told me that he did not think that any
cattle or beef are exported from Arkansas, and that was why I could not find the statistics. He said that probably many calves from
Arkansas went to feed lots in other states and then some of them MIGHT (my emphasis) be exported.
Enjoy this beautiful day,
Jane
So our STATE VET is full of hot air…it will be way more than 15 cents per animal.
Comment Sue Karber — November 1, 2006 @ 1:19 am
I sent an email to Dr. Mcginnis, NH State Vet regarding funding question on 10/28/06. No reply as of this morning.
Comment Bob Constantine — November 2, 2006 @ 7:24 am
Walter:
Please add Dr. John Huntley, NY State Vet, to your list of non-responders. I e-mailed him on October 25th and no reply to date.
His correct e-mail address is: john.huntley@agmkt.state.ny.us
The one listed on this website: http://agr.wa.gov/FoodAnimal/AnimalHealth/StateVets.htm no longer functions.
Comment Karen — November 3, 2006 @ 11:17 pm
Walter, I e-mailed Dr. Mcginnis NH State Vet
last Saturday…no reply as of yet, one week later.
Comment Bob Constantine — November 4, 2006 @ 4:44 pm
Is it possible that the state vets are at a training seminar?
I sent an email two weeks ago and a fax one week ago to our state vet and haven’t heard from her.
Dr. Susan Keller, North Dakota State Veterinarian:
skeller@nd.gov
Comment donna — November 4, 2006 @ 8:27 pm
You will find the Illinois vets here:
link
Comment donna — November 4, 2006 @ 8:36 pm
New Hampshire state vet is Steven Crawford from California now. Cliff retired two years ago. Crawford was from a CA mega dairy. Still has financial interests in it.
He is definately proNAIS.
Comment Sue F — November 5, 2006 @ 4:16 am
Stephen K. Crawford
State Veterinarian
email: scrawford@agr.state.nh.us
phone: (603) 271-2404
Comment Sue F — November 5, 2006 @ 4:20 am
“Y” In light of the response I received from Dr. Crawford and Sue’s post I’d have to say that NH’s state vet is in favor of NAIS. Apparently people have forgot our state motto, “Live Free or Die”. Jen
Comment Jen J — November 6, 2006 @ 1:36 pm
Jen / Sue, thanks for update on NH state vet, sorry to hear he’s one of “them”, marching in lockstep with big brother no surprise though…I finally read MAD SHEEP, very good book. Scared and angered me, alot. If “they” can pull that B.S. in Vermont, they can do it anywhere…seems to me like somebody in Gov’t. got bought and paid for at the expense of an American family trying to have a farm and raise their kids…A must read for all NONAIS people, it will open your eyes.
Comment Bob Constantine — November 6, 2006 @ 8:35 pm
Jen, what did Crawford say? I haven’t spoke to him since March. Got the impression then that he was not here because he loved NH. I felt he was actually dangerous.
You can do a google search and come up with a few older powerpoint presentations he did and also see the state gov’t voting to pay his moving expenses for him and his family from California. Nice chunk of change.
We would have been much better served by one of our local large animal vets replacing Cliff. Wouldn’t need any extra data bases or traking because the local would have known where the critters are or exactlty who to ask to find them.
Comment Sue F — November 7, 2006 @ 3:47 am
Jen. Contact Senator Neil Kirk of NH and tell him about the state vet. He was here in Oklahoma and I talked to him and gave him a disk full of information plus emailed more. He lead the way to block real id in NH and knows Katherin Albright well. He thought this was a voluntary program but voluntary until mandatory is not voluntary. Being under homeland security and the federal registry still in tact with the same 2009 deadline for 100% voluntary sign-up means nothing has changed. State by state they will force compliance or pull the homeland security garbage to pull off the corporate government take over of all food for a total food cartel with total vertical (packer-processor) intergration almost complete with horizontal supply complete by 2009.
Monsanto has 80% of the cotton market now and with the clean list giving 99% of all plant life form patents to corporate the animal, plant total control will be complete.
Comment Sue Karber — November 7, 2006 @ 4:17 am
One of the NH candidates for office was a former Monsanto employee.
Be dipped if I can remember his name right now. Kid is screaming for the computer so if anybody else can remember feel free.
It was an ad from the Plymouth area that had his work info. I almost think a rep of some sort rather than a senator. Can’t search until morning I guess. Kid wins.
Comment Sue F — November 7, 2006 @ 5:07 pm
Paul Dalton, Monsanto employee for 28 years. Was running for state rep in area. Most of our little towns are still on paper ballots with a hand count but it looks like he’s lost.
Sue Karber,
Did Kurk seem like he understood? I’ve had a few brief emails with him back and forth but he was so tied up fighting the real ID thing that I let myself get put on a back burner. Guess I found chipped human more disturbing than chipped chicken. He was doing such a superb job with the Real ID fight I didn’t want to bother him and break is train of thought.
Results here aren’t final but as far as state reps go I think this area is in pretty good shape. We were not even represented in the state house for a bit. John Alger and then Bob Barker both our reps died in office but too close to the election for somebody else to get elected.
Comment Sue F — November 8, 2006 @ 3:25 am
One person that lost in N.H. was rep. R. Sheldon Sawyer. I had conversations with him when we were fighting against the “kennel legislation (as in licensing even little kennels like mine)” The man was/is one of us. I was so sad he lost. Now what? pro Humane Society???? JUNK!
I actually have talked on e-mail with Stephen Crawford and “sort of” got the impression that he also may be backing down.
Please correct me (my last conversation was probably about 2 months ago.)
Comment Carlene Wheeler — November 9, 2006 @ 9:04 pm
WA,?,11-10-06,Eldridge, Leonard LEldridge@agr.wa.gov
If federal funding were withdrawn, there would be a number of policy issues to be considered by the WSDA Director and the legislature, depending on the conditions at the time. It would be inappropriate to speculate on the outcome.
Leonard E. Eldridge DVM
Washington State-WSDA
Comment Celeste — November 10, 2006 @ 7:12 am
MN. I asked MN to explain why they would not implement NAIS in is present form without Federal funding and this was the response…
“Minnesota would need a process to update livestock premises information. Most likely a premises registration program.”
Have a good day,
Ted
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