Comments on: Canada’s 8th BSE Case http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/ Protect our traditional rights to farm Thu, 17 May 2012 03:17:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Henry O'claire http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-792301 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:23:31 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-792301 So the disease is being imported by the big agricultureal companies in to the USA and then they are implementing a NAIS to track the diseased animals inside this country so that 48 hours after you dye from the BSE they can trace it back and freek out all the other people who ate the same cow or any cow that was in the same stockyard as the bse cow. Brilliant. Control the food. Control the people. So the disease is being imported by the big agricultureal companies in to the USA and then they are implementing a NAIS to track the diseased animals inside this country so that 48 hours after you dye from the BSE they can trace it back and freek out all the other people who ate the same cow or any cow that was in the same stockyard as the bse cow. Brilliant. Control the food. Control the people.

]]> by: Mr Dirty Nails http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6852 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:48:00 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6852 Unfortunately Lee, I could readily add to your apt example. And you again after that, and so on ... The problem I see is how to mobilize a broader spectrum of the citizenry. As you illustrate, NAIS is but one piece in a puzzle designed for tyranny. The second being what might occur were we to succeed. And yet we must ... respects, Wm Unfortunately Lee, I could readily add to your apt example. And you again after that, and so on …

The problem I see is how to mobilize a broader spectrum of the citizenry. As you illustrate, NAIS is but one piece in a puzzle designed for tyranny.

The second being what might occur were we to succeed.

And yet we must …

respects, Wm

]]> by: LEE http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6836 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:13:51 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6836 I'm not sure where it is located, but I commented o few days ago about the USDA and the GE rice getting out from under their control, well check this out, <a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article1222081.ece">link</a> I am doing good to even be able to turn on this computer so I haven't yet learned how to post a link other than to paste it, but that aside this piece in a British paper about GE rice and our gov't, may open some eyes and show how the NAIS will not be able to help in the real world. Thanks. I’m not sure where it is located, but I commented o few days ago about the USDA and the GE rice getting out from under their control, well check this out, link

I am doing good to even be able to turn on this computer so I haven’t yet learned how to post a link other than to paste it, but that aside this piece in a British paper about GE rice and our gov’t, may open some eyes and show how the NAIS will not be able to help in the real world. Thanks.

]]> by: LEE http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6835 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:43:16 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6835 A case in point would be the swiss drug maker "Roche" the tamiflu makers. Their first quarter profits were up more than expected 22% to 7.7 billion (as per Forbes.com Matthew Herper 4/27/06) (yes,billion with a "B") on "fears" (not proof) of a bird flu outbreak. That is one drug maker out of many, and that is just for one business quarter, multiply the above figure by hundreds of companies and many quarters and you begin to get a picture. So it is easy to understand (when this kind of cash is at stake, based only on a rumor/scare) why the govi/corp is very interested in perpetuating anything that will generate lots of cash (they say "sex" sells,but I"d wager "fear" sells as much or more) This is what is behind say ; oil prices, "Oh my, some president said somthing stupid (no suprise) against the world, volia' the price of oil jumps $5 bucks a barrel. Or a storm cloud was detected off the coast of Africa headed this way, BAMM!, the price of oil jumps another 4.50 a barrel; amid "fears" of a supply cut. You see how this works? And there are many more examples of this process all over the place, business is making money, and the gov't is broke, business wants more money, gov't wants some, business says to govt' and govt says to business "Let us conspire together to milk the uddermost farthing from yonder peasants purse" So it goes,and they come up with idiotic (our point of view) things like NAIS (brilliant) from their perspective to scare the wits out of the average person so that they (govi/corp) can step in and save the day, and laugh all the way to the bank as they rob us blind, but we "feel" safe. Oh, and by the way, some of our great leaders have some very deep stock interests and business connections to these companies, suprised? I hope not. Remember,its not truth that sets us free; it is the truth we know and understand the sets us free! A case in point would be the swiss drug maker “Roche” the tamiflu makers. Their first quarter profits were up more than expected 22% to 7.7 billion (as per Forbes.com Matthew Herper 4/27/06) (yes,billion with a “B”) on “fears” (not proof) of a bird flu outbreak. That is one drug maker out of many, and that is just for one business quarter, multiply the above figure by hundreds of companies and many quarters and you begin to get a picture. So it is easy to understand (when this kind of cash is at stake, based only on a rumor/scare) why the govi/corp is very interested in perpetuating anything that will generate lots of cash (they say “sex” sells,but I”d wager “fear” sells as much or more) This is what is behind say ; oil prices, “Oh my, some president said somthing stupid (no suprise) against the world, volia’ the price of oil jumps $5 bucks a barrel. Or a storm cloud was detected off the coast of Africa headed this way, BAMM!, the price of oil jumps another 4.50 a barrel; amid “fears” of a supply cut. You see how this works? And there are many more examples of this process all over the place, business is making money, and the gov’t is broke, business wants more money, gov’t wants some, business says to govt’ and govt says to business “Let us conspire together to milk the uddermost farthing from yonder peasants purse” So it goes,and they come up with idiotic (our point of view) things like NAIS (brilliant) from their perspective to scare the wits out of the average person so that they (govi/corp) can step in and save the day, and laugh all the way to the bank as they rob us blind, but we “feel” safe. Oh, and by the way, some of our great leaders have some very deep stock interests and business connections to these companies, suprised? I hope not. Remember,its not truth that sets us free; it is the truth we know and understand the sets us free!

]]> by: LEE http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6830 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:18:35 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6830 This is true,Mr Dirty Nails,I believe it was Mussolini (Italys WWII facist dictator) who made the statement to that effect,and he is considered the father to "facism".Free enterprise is a wonderful thing but when "corporate" interests get hold of it then it is no longer "free enterprise" as they take total control of a market and squeeze out the little guy, and they tend to use the power of the "govt" to give them this leverage; all in the name of lower prices and better selection (hogwash). The point is that this is what is behind this NAIS, "Greed and Power" in the form of govi/corp. We need to get back to the free market; truely free. This is true,Mr Dirty Nails,I believe it was Mussolini (Italys WWII facist dictator) who made the statement to that effect,and he is considered the father to “facism”.Free enterprise is a wonderful thing but when “corporate” interests get hold of it then it is no longer “free enterprise” as they take total control of a market and squeeze out the little guy, and they tend to use the power of the “govt” to give them this leverage; all in the name of lower prices and better selection (hogwash). The point is that this is what is behind this NAIS, “Greed and Power” in the form of govi/corp. We need to get back to the free market; truely free.

]]> by: Mr Dirty Nails http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6788 Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:58:14 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6788 That's Corporativism fer ya Lee:( "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." respects, Wm That’s Corporativism fer ya Lee:(

“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.”

respects, Wm

]]> by: LEE http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6716 Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:34:53 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6716 Your'e all most likely aware of the USDA/agribiz claim that NAIS is nessessary to combat the threat of bioterrorism. I would like to bring up the recent news about Bayer crop sciences admission that their bio contaminated rice was "accidently" released into the food supply. It seems to me that the BigAg crowd has done more real / potential damage to the food supply ("agriterrorism") in the last few years then the whole rest of the world combined. I mean think about it, if a small farmer, maybe a pig farmer, sold a hog that he knew was "poisoned" into the food supply,( and that poison had the ability to spread) he would be crucified as a threat to humanity, BUT a huge corporation does basicly the same thing and it is made out to be "safe". Remember "star-link" corn? It cost the US a huge chunk of the world market and polluted gene pools all over the planet,the same is true for GE wheat, cotton and soy, Well, US rice is worth a billion dollars a year and many countrys have served the USDA notice in the past that they will buy no US rice if we use any GE modified seed. Did I just hear the death scream of the US rice farmer? Johanns ( US AG SEC) is now doing damage control to insure world markets that all is under control ) This is the type of thing that has been going on for years, big agribiz destroys agriculture and then pushes for Laws (NAIS) to protect our country s ag from the likes of you and I , small sustainable farmers where we do not mix the genetic substance of our animals together in a petri dish or a bucket and then say "oops" we boo-booed.And what about the FDA okaying the "virus soup" a mix of 5-6 bacteria eating viruses now okayed to be sprayed on hotdogs, lunchmeats and so on? What kind of "evolving" of viruses could take place with this foolishness? And they tell us to worry about bird flu mutating? I am way past being "fed-up" with the double standard that is applied to giant chemical/Ag companies on one hand and the other to all the small ag entities, If terrorism is the use of "Fear" or "terror" to advance an agenda then I suggest to you that it is the USDA and their corporate cronies who are the threat to our food supply and not some nameless terrorists. Your’e all most likely aware of the USDA/agribiz claim that NAIS is nessessary to combat the threat of bioterrorism. I would like to bring up the recent news about Bayer crop sciences admission that their bio contaminated rice was “accidently” released into the food supply. It seems to me that the BigAg crowd has done more real / potential damage to the food supply (”agriterrorism”) in the last few years then the whole rest of the world combined. I mean think about it, if a small farmer, maybe a pig farmer, sold a hog that he knew was “poisoned” into the food supply,( and that poison had the ability to spread) he would be crucified as a threat to humanity, BUT a huge corporation does basicly the same thing and it is made out to be “safe”. Remember “star-link” corn? It cost the US a huge chunk of the world market and polluted gene pools all over the planet,the same is true for GE wheat, cotton and soy, Well, US rice is worth a billion dollars a year and many countrys have served the USDA notice in the past that they will buy no US rice if we use any GE modified seed. Did I just hear the death scream of the US rice farmer? Johanns ( US AG SEC) is now doing damage control to insure world markets that all is under control ) This is the type of thing that has been going on for years, big agribiz destroys agriculture and then pushes for Laws (NAIS) to protect our country s ag from the likes of you and I , small sustainable farmers where we do not mix the genetic substance of our animals together in a petri dish or a bucket and then say “oops” we boo-booed.And what about the FDA okaying the “virus soup” a mix of 5-6 bacteria eating viruses now okayed to be sprayed on hotdogs, lunchmeats and so on? What kind of “evolving” of viruses could take place with this foolishness? And they tell us to worry about bird flu mutating? I am way past being “fed-up” with the double standard that is applied to giant chemical/Ag companies on one hand and the other to all the small ag entities, If terrorism is the use of “Fear” or “terror” to advance an agenda then I suggest to you that it is the USDA and their corporate cronies who are the threat to our food supply and not some nameless terrorists.

]]> by: Podchef http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6702 Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:02:39 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6702 Celeste--Scary stuff. And why is it found under "Agriculture 21"? Is this a hat-tip by FAO to Agenda 21? What's the "21" anyway? And why do our forests need biosecurity? This really is the beginning of a hellish nightmare where the earth ends up a burnt-out shell with robotoids battling it out for the last human blood. . . Lee-- I noticed the delays too. Would that regular citizens could put off stuff like that: IRS audits, taxes, death, airport security checks, cancer results. . . I'm embroiled in a scandal right now which should, by rights, cost several high-ranking local government employees their jobs. Within 12 hours they had closed ranks and obfuscated the issues so much it will be months before the case gets dealt with, if it ever does. There is no truth anymore, just layers of beauraucracy. Celeste–Scary stuff. And why is it found under “Agriculture 21″? Is this a hat-tip by FAO to Agenda 21? What’s the “21″ anyway? And why do our forests need biosecurity? This really is the beginning of a hellish nightmare where the earth ends up a burnt-out shell with robotoids battling it out for the last human blood. . .

Lee– I noticed the delays too. Would that regular citizens could put off stuff like that: IRS audits, taxes, death, airport security checks, cancer results. . . I’m embroiled in a scandal right now which should, by rights, cost several high-ranking local government employees their jobs. Within 12 hours they had closed ranks and obfuscated the issues so much it will be months before the case gets dealt with, if it ever does. There is no truth anymore, just layers of beauraucracy.

]]> by: LEE http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6689 Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:27:43 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6689 Podchef,relating to that links story. I bet the "evidence" in that case is long gone. Wouldn't it be great if we as indiviuals could hold off investigators for months if we were being investigated? Just another example of the ineptitude of the govi-corp and big agribiz. Podchef,relating to that links story. I bet the “evidence” in that case is long gone. Wouldn’t it be great if we as indiviuals could hold off investigators for months if we were being investigated? Just another example of the ineptitude of the govi-corp and big agribiz.

]]> by: Celeste http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6675 Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:58:39 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/08/24/canadas-8th-bse-case/#comment-6675 Podchef...and where have ALL the BSE cows come from? Our friends up north in Canada. <i>[Celeste, is this really correct? I believe there was one in Alabama and one in Texas that did not come from Canada. Perhaps others? -WJ]</i> What is interesting to look at is the fao.org website (under auspices of the UN), then go to Biosecurity. On the main page is declares they are introducing plant and animal diseases and pests. AND deploying genetically modiefied organisms into our forests. Is this so they can ride in eventually with their white hat and save us all? Deploy is military terminology. Don't take my word for it go to the site yourself. Podchef…and where have ALL the BSE cows come from? Our friends up north in Canada.

[Celeste, is this really correct? I believe there was one in Alabama and one in Texas that did not come from Canada. Perhaps others? -WJ]

What is interesting to look at is the fao.org website (under auspices of the UN), then go to Biosecurity. On the main page is declares they are introducing plant and animal diseases and pests. AND deploying genetically modiefied organisms into our forests. Is this so they can ride in eventually with their white hat and save us all? Deploy is military terminology. Don’t take my word for it go to the site yourself.

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