[Here are notes from Sharon who is attending the National Institute for Animal Agriculture (NIAA) conference in Kansas City to keep an eye on the pro-NAIS folks. -WJ]
Tuesday
From: henwhisperer
Subject: Postcard from Kansas City
Date: August 22, 2006 7:22:56 PM EDT
If I only could relay to you how creepy the NIAA Id Expo is. Imagine being in the same room with a couple of hundred people who have fully swallowed the pudding, drank the koolaid. It is very scary to think that NAIS is just one program out of hundreds, maybe thousands, being run by the same type of people.
I don’t really know where to start. This is interesting - found in the info packet: neon green sheet,
“Keep Moving and Leave it to the Uniforms…” It’s possible that NAIS protesters will be present during ID/INFO EXPO 2006.
In the event of a confrontation, inititated by a protester or belligerent activist, please ignore them and move on; such incdients serve no useful purpose.
NIAA has retained the services of security professionals during the conference to properly deal with disruptive and inappropriate behavior.
If local media approach you about an incident, we suggest referring them to the NIAA staff, which is prepared for such situations and can facilitate ther request for an interview.
Enjoy your stay in Kansas City!!!
Whoa! Do you think we’ve got them nervous?
When the head of media relations met me he was very friendly. When he was introduced to Doreen Hannes, he physically started, like he might have gotten an electric shock. We laughed about that later.
All of the morning PowerPoint presentations will be provided to us media types, they even gave us memory sticks. When I get the PowerPoints, I’ll load them into the files section on Vermont Against NAIS and then post the appropriate notes to go along with each.
Weimers said NAIS is about filling the void in disease control and not about controlling the lives of people. (Oh, did I mention that if lies were rain, we would have all drowned in that room this afternoon.) He likened the resistance to NAIS to when credit cards were introduced. He asked for a show of hands, who had/didn’t have credit cards. Everyone had credit cards, so that supposedly proved his point about 100% compliance for a voluntary program. “I foresee a day when this is the way business is done.” Another nugget from Weimers: He told the activist from Wisconsin, “We will drive every road in the country and find every animal.” I am on purpose going to find him and get him to say the same thing to me. [See this later quote from Weimers too.] [Still later the USDA tries to deny this in the NYTimes and blames us for spreading missinformation. Apparently they are realizing how foolish they sound.]
As I have come to see it, the specific working groups have done what have to make the inevitable program more palatable. It has never occurred to them, apparently, that the program is fundamentally wrong and could be stopped if they put as much effort into stopping it as they have in writing their recommendations. Linda Campell and Doreen talked for over an hour and still she did not get it.
Interestingly enough, at the end of the q & a session, one of the NIAA staff brought up “the state who recently put premises registration on hold” (Vermont! -WJ) and they talked about the confidentiality issue. Confidentiality came up several times, always with that tone of voice, incredulous that anyone would find any problem at all with giving info to the gov’t. The conclusion about Freedom of Information Act was that all info will be FOIA exempt. Each state will have to look at the issue in relation to state’s laws, and this exemption will need federal and state legislation.
That’s all for now.
Pray for us. I mean it. We are in deep, over our heads, here.
-Sharon
[As Sharon sends me additional updates I’ll post them here on this article. -WJ]
Wednesday
From: henwhisperer
Subject: “I wish I’d taken the blue pill”
Date: August 23, 2006 7:20:28 PM EDT
General Session V - Effective Communications of NAIS
Session Summary: Education and outreach opportunities are key to a successful national animal identification effort….
USDA Communication Plan - Dore Mobley, USDA, APHIS Legislative and Public
Affairs.
Dore’s presentation was very short and to the point. A consulting firm they hired did blog research of 93 blogs to identify key themes. They found there were 5 major themes:
Burden on the small farmer 40%
Tracking of every animal movement 27%
Civil Liberty issues 16%
Economic Burden (didn’t get it)
Fines for non-compliance 10%
According to Dore, non-producers only need premises id “as cited in the Guide for non and small producers”.
Seemed to me to be the perfect time to ask the question that Walter brought up about how she and Neil have never answered his questions. Hey, I mean, the session WAS about communication, right?
So I go up to the microphone and introduce myself, acknowledging that she and I had talked before on the phone. Nice polite smile from her. “Since you brought up blogs, Dore, I know NoNAIS.org is one of the blogs you must have identified.” A yes smile from her. “So, we were wondering why you and Neil have never answered Walter Jeffries questions from back in April. What happened?” No smile this time, but that tone again.
“We get thousands of emails every week and we just don’t have the time to respond to each of them individually.”
“But you said in an email to him that you would answer his questions. It seems to me that if you are truly concerned about the misconceptions….” I was cut off. “We answered Mr. Jeffries questions in the Guide for Non and Small Producers. Have you read it?” I swear, if one more person condescendingly asks me if I’ve read it, I am sure…well, have you seen the Matrix?
Earlier in the day I looked right into John Wiemer’s eyes and told him I would not comply. I also got face time with Johanns after his speech was over. He never addressed any questions or made comments about the non-producers and so I walked up to his handler out in the hall and asked if I could ask him a question. She said to walk with them, so I did. When I asked him about the non-producers all he said to me was, “We are working on it.” And I told the Dr. (name is a blank right now) who is the American Quarter Horse Assn head (I think) that I would shoot my horse myself before letting anyone put a chip in her neck, 4 -5 vertebrae above her withers.
Met the Granny Warriors and took a picture of the scary protesters who were, by in large, elderly people in hover-rounds.
I videoed quite a few of the sessions and over the next week I’ll burn them on cds. If you want one, let me know, but there will be a charge to cover the cost of the cds and postage.
Folks, let me end this missive by telling you this: NAIS is a big cement ball rolling right at us and isn’t going to be stopped by the hand of USDA or NIAA. The time for asking questions of the USDA is over. I mean we should stay in their faces to keep them on their toes, they find us quite irritating, however they aren’t going to grant us any exceptions, give us any leeway. Now is time to turn our efforts on the state governments because it is there that “states rights” relief might be found. Also, Congress, we need to start getting their attention. I don’t know how we are going to do it, but we must.
You know me, I am never scared, but I am scared by what I’ve seen here.
Peace,
Sharon
[Stay tuned for continuing updates from the halls of the NIAA… -WJ]
Mary Zanoni at NIAA
Just in from an alert reader who spotted Mary’s name on the program:
“We’ll also have an opportunity to hear not only the attributes of NAIS but all viewpoints regarding the implementation of a National Animal Identification System,” explains Fourdraine.
“In a special session, several industry representatives and producers will be on the program to express their concerns. Amongst the participants in this session will be Mary Zanoni (PhD, JD), an outspoken critic of NAIS who considers herself an advocate for sustainable agriculture” says Fourdraine.
ID/INFO EXPO is a national event of the National Institute for Animal Agriculture, a national trade association representing all sectors of animal agriculture. For more information and to register for the event and to make a hotel reservation online go to -AnimalAg
[Stay tuned for more news from the pits… -WJ]
Thursday
From: henwhisperer
Subject: Last Chapter
Date: August 25, 2006 6:40:43 PM EDT
After hearing Dore Mobley’s contemptuous answer to my question about why they wouldn’t answer Walter’s questions, I left the Expo and didn’t go back. I just couldn’t stomach any more of it.
This is my take home message and what you all need to understand. USDA means to tag every livestock animal in this country, every one of them. Chickens will have RFID tags glued to their wings (that is one thought they had anyway), horses will need a chip inserted in the nuchal ligament. Goats will need tags in their ears, but the La Mancha goats present a problem because they have small or no outer ear material. The working groups are only presenting a problem to USDA because the groups are in chaos. I spoke with a woman in the horse working group who works in the international horse industry, the US Olympics, etc, and some kind of identification system does make sense for them, but as she said, the international community can’t come to a consensus over what kind of id system will work best for them. But that is industry, isn’t it? She, herself, won’t be happy to have a chip inserted in her pet quarter horse. Did you know that Canada has scanners that can read both kind of ISO chips and both of those chips are used here in the US, but a dual scanner isn’t allowed by law. So, anyone with the wrong chip for the allowable scanner will have to buy new chips.
I found it amusing when I connected the dots between the CEO of NIAA who resigned recently to start a company that is on the list of technology vendors. That is what NAIS is all about…profit centers and the good old boy network. At the end of the day, NIAA/USDA/APHIS is made up of a bunch of cronies who think they have found the golden cow/pig/sheep/horse/chicken/llama/etc.
Which reminds me, the woman who heads up the camelid working group made the comment, when talking about “price point”, how sad it would be indeed to keep a 4-H kid out of competition over the price of a tag. That says it all, doesn’t it?
“Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their party”. That’s a sentence that we had to type over and over again in high school typing class. I type it now for a much different reason. We have to sound a serious alert to the people. Up to now we’ve been doing the best we can to inform people and we’ve done a good job given that we don’t have any real resources. Grass roots efforts aren’t easy to float. We are at a new point in the fight. It seems to me that the next logical step is to take NAIS to the state and federal representatives. We have to play hard ball now. The USDA means to chip every animal in this country. Voluntary means mandatory. The working groups aren’t going to help people like us, they are for their own particular industry. We have no representation in this.
Hammer time!
Sharon
[Sharon is safely home and has sworn off all future air travel. Drained, weary and alive. Thank you, Sharon for all your hard work! -WJ]
We need protest rallys ,Marches, etc. The militants do it. Why not us to keep our freedoms! The problem being is that our voices are not being heard .Our politicans are to busy with other issues and think that this NAIS in just a small issue that doesn’t need a voice…We need to get media coverage, and protest marches will do it….
Comment Betty — August 23, 2006 @ 10:48 am
It sounds to me like they are on a serious mission to establish “thought control” on the issue. Creepy indeed! And I will pray for those stuck amidst the “Kool-Aid drinkers”, but I think we *all* need prayer. God forbit that this monstrous program actually gains acceptance - or any of the other programs like it those idiots are promoting. Can’t they see they are pushing the loss of their own freedoms?
Comment Ray Beere Johnson II — August 23, 2006 @ 11:00 am
It’s a sad day when free speach is inappropriate behavior. Wow, hired thugs to scare off the protestors…didn’t I see that on Deadwood last week?
Comment MsLiberty — August 23, 2006 @ 11:04 am
What exactly does “filling the void in disease control” mean??!?!?!
Holding up a credit card was a cute little trick but still full of holes like the rest of NAIS and can be sunk in one statement….CREDIT CARDS ARE NOT MANDATORY! There are many who chose not to have credit cards and they are still allowed to buy and sell. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FILE REPORTS EVERYWHERE YOU GO WITH YOUR CREDIT CARD!!!!!
Comment S BARACKMAN — August 23, 2006 @ 11:44 am
In the event of a confrontation, inititated by a protester or belligerent activist, please ignore them and move on; “such incidents serve no useful purpose.”
translated: we do not want you to hear the truth about NAIS and possible start thinking about what it really is!!!”
Comment S BARACKMAN — August 23, 2006 @ 11:51 am
NIAA has retained the services of security professionals during the conference to properly deal with “disruptive and inappropriate behavior.”
Where are the smelling salts in case someone faints from hearing the truth about NAIS?
Comment S BARACKMAN — August 23, 2006 @ 11:53 am
“In the event of a confrontation, inititated by a protester or belligerent activist, please ignore them and move on; such incidents serve no useful purpose.”
What is so tragic is how the majority backed the 1st amend. free speech rights which now include pornogpraphy and such because of the argument “if we start saying you can’t say this or that then it will avalanche into all sorts of can’t says this or thats” but here we are stopped from even beginning to protect the very thing that will cause the downfall of our constitutional rights!
Comment S BARACKMAN — August 23, 2006 @ 11:57 am
We have bumper stickers against MANDATORY micro-chipping.
We must all work together to eliminate this Mandatory section.
Comment Judy — August 23, 2006 @ 12:37 pm
We need to get rid of the “protestor and belligerent activist” tag. We are loyal, red blooded Americans fighting to defend our Constitutional rights against an unfeeling government. We are PATRIOTS!
Comment Barbara — August 23, 2006 @ 5:14 pm
Every day, we lose just a few more of our Constitutional Rights. We no longer have any actual freedom in this country, and anyone who believes that we do is seriously deluding themselves.
NAIS is being steamrolled right over us, whether we like it or not.
Our only options will be at the state level….Diana
Comment Diana Flanary-Bray — August 23, 2006 @ 7:00 pm
I am sorry to say but Indiana has made it a law to register by Sept. 1st, 2006. I wish there was a way we could get the American people to stand up together. The others did and they got things done but we won’t. Nobody wants to get involved. I pray to God that we can stop this program. Is there a way we can stop NAIS in Indiana?
Comment LINDA — August 23, 2006 @ 7:46 pm
From my perspective it seems that these people have gone Howard Hughes and simply cannot accept the fact that where you have life, you will have some dis-ease. There is no way that the sniffles can be eradicated. Frankly, I am wiped out. It is exhausting dealing with people who are so incapable of understanding the fundamental opposition we have to the entire ideology expressed in the NAIS. I’m writing an article about this and it seems it will be based upon the Red Pill versus the Blue Pill idiom.
Whew.
[Doreen, take a week off, or two. This is a long term battle, perhaps the rest of our lives, not just for NAIS but to protect our rights, freedoms and privacy from those who would usurp them. Rest and regain your energy for the battles to come. -WJ]
Comment Doreen — August 23, 2006 @ 8:54 pm
Sharon, I’m scared too. This thing must be stopped, and I think the best thing now is to make this a political issue - get so many people scared like you and I are that no Congressperson would dare *not* stop NAIS for fear of losing the next election. That needs to be our objective, and our resolution: for every politician, No NAIS, or No Vote!
Comment Ray Beere Johnson II — August 23, 2006 @ 9:23 pm
I have to agree with Betty. We need to organize rally’s, marches, ect. I have not been able to find a single article in the WI capitol’s newspapers about NAIS. I have written to them to suggest it.
The only way for us to get media attention to this issue is to get in their face with a show of peaceful, civil disobedience.
Most of our politicians do open “visiting sessions” in various counties throughout their respective states, we need to get on the ball, find out when they will be in certain areas and PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS! If 100 people show up in opposition to NAIS, don’t you think we could all follow in VT footsteps?
Comment Lois Jordan — August 23, 2006 @ 9:27 pm
God bless Sharon for this wonderful report and God bless Walter for providing the forum with which to share the priceless information which it contains! Many thanks to both of you!!
Of all the information contained above, I think that the Weimers quote “we will drive every road in the country and find every animal” is perhaps the most telling.
When I think about the way I was chided by a PA Dept. of Ag vet because I suggested to him that “helicopters will one day be flying over PA to identify non-compliant premises” I cannot help but feel (albeit sadly) justified in my comment.
Now we know with absolute certainty the true nature of Weimers and Hammerschmidt. They put on a good act when they visited Berks County, PA on July 17. Now we can see their true colors flying.
And Walter…this also confirms my earlier statement that the USDA will never answer your questions except to refer you to the “Guide for Small-Scale and Non-Commercial Producers” document.
Comment Neil W. — August 24, 2006 @ 7:02 am
All: I recall with absolute certainty that both Dr. Weimers and Neil Hammerschmidt both stated on several occassions during our July 17 Town Meeting that the USDA wanted very much to be “practical” in the application and implementation of the NAIS.
This reference to being “practical” is also mentioned several times in the document “A Guide for Small-Scale or Non-Commercial Producers” which they now point to as containing the answers to our (and to Walter’s) many questions and concerns.
Yet…how can the quote “We will drive every road in the country and find every animal” possibly be even remotely considered to be PRACTICAL?
And something else occurred to me…both Weimers and Hammerschmidt sought to distance themselves from the NIAA when it was brought to their attention at our meeting (July 17) that the NIAA had enormous and disproportionate influence during the preparation of the Draft Strategic Plan.
WHY is Weimers speaking at this NIAA conference in the first place?? Does this not PROVE that the NIAA is heavily invested in the implementation of the NAIS? This goes even farther to proving that the two USDA officials Weimers and Hammerschmidt misrepresented themselves at our meeting.
Comment Neil W. — August 24, 2006 @ 10:47 am
;) The goverment would not lie to us or estabulish any useless prgrams, staff them with incompentent morons or infringe on our liberties in any way. afterall look at the fine public schools, excellent health care, jim-dandy FIMA responses and cracker-jack homeland security. not to mention the respect for private property, aid to the homeless and the wonderful child welfare and fostercare we have. i for one will regester as soon as i find out where, get a chip put in my glutious maimus and wear a compurerized tag in my ear so the goverment can put me down as soon as the mad cows come home and the flying flu birds roost within our boarders ;)
steve
Comment steve — August 24, 2006 @ 1:25 pm
One other idea: After noticing company Premier1 on the list of NAIS fence-riders on here, I sent them a letter explaining that I was not going to put in my several-hundred-dollar’s-worth order unless they notified me they were taking a stand against the NAIS. We’re going to do the same for the other companies from which we are about ready to order vet supplies–Jeffers and Valley Vet. Will let you know what we find out! The point is: let those suppliers of your goods know you will boycott them if they are wishy-washy or pro-NAIS. Also, be sure to check with any livestock organizations to which you belong to determine their stand (if any) on the issue, and do the same with them.
[Excellent, Marian. I have done this with suppliers. Normally I get no response. With Premier1, I had them on the Naughty List for a while. I have had long discussions with Stan, the owner. After that I moved them to the fence but I would like to have them come out on the anti-NAIS side. I think I can correctly summarize his position as he doesn’t think that NAIS will happen for all species and he does think it is a good idea for cattle. He doesn’t like some aspects, including mandatory, of the program. If I got that wrong perhaps he’ll correct me but I think that is essentially correct from our long letters back and forth. I had one supplier, Crystal Creek Livestock Supply, send me a nasty letter demanding to be taken off the “On-the-Fence” list. He insisted they had no position, that is “On-the-Fence”. Please do engage your suppliers in this debate. Cheers, -WJ]
Comment Marian Van Beever — August 24, 2006 @ 1:41 pm
Well they are hitting Missouri hard folks. Seems they don’t feel very comfortable with the effects we are having from having so many public meetings aqbout the program.
I just received word today that Dr. John Weimers will be at oue meeting here in Mountain Grove at the Wright County Stockyards on August 29th. Walter, I will send you a proper meeting advertisement, but I have a meeting tonight and I wanted this info out as it seems several newspapers dropped the ball and many of our ads didn’t make the papers. The doors open at 5:30 for concession food. Tv and Newspaperrs have been invited, Speakers will begin at 7pm with Q & A following. Should be very very interesting.
If you are anywhere near, tell your neighbors and COME ON OUT> They don’t like an informed public. We are all liars and can’t seem to read with comprehension according to the pro camp.
Comment Doreen — August 24, 2006 @ 4:20 pm
Just like the credit card example, our State Vet NAIS rep. told us at a county fair that we should feel responsible enough about our animals to sign up for Premise ID, just like when we fill out the parent information for our school children. . .
Thank God, however, our school districts aren’t combining our kids info into a national database accessible by, say, universities looking to weed out 80% of those who won’t do well, or by book sellers, and other education-related industries, or truant officers.
All one more reason I am so glad we homeschool.
Comment Podchef — August 24, 2006 @ 7:15 pm
How many have gotten in way over their heads with credit cards? Had no idea how the minimum payment worked or how fast they could go under with the costs and lose their future and pay for the privilege! Sounds like NAIS doesn’t it. Sounds good but unless you have the ability to pay especially all the hidden costs,do extensive paper work and afford to never leave home plus a good camera system with alarms for when an animal or bird touches your property with NAIS it is better to not sign up and risk going under or having computer glitches wipe us out with proof on us never the “perfect data base”. Remember how many spies the USDA Gestapo has watching and finding fault. NAIS is like credit cards only those who can afford to pay it off every month from massive lot tag profits and able to deal with the computer glitches with accountants, secretaries and lawyers should sign up. Me I would rather not get hooked into a program that has so many dangers like identity theft, add on costs and hidden costs just like credit cards. So maybe credit cards are not such a bad example. Both are designed to cost the little guy the most and help wipe out the little guy.
Comment Sue Karber — August 25, 2006 @ 9:50 am
You all…I am in the process of putting the NIAA info on Vermont Against NAIS. Walter, you are free to move it around to make it more accessible, if you’d like to do that. Otherwise, join Vermont Against to get to them. Everyone is welcome to distribute the information, cross post, etc. Light up the world!!!
Sharon
Comment SharonZ — August 25, 2006 @ 3:32 pm
One more thing. You will need powerpoint to see the slide shows. If you don’t have it, open office has something equivalent for free.
Comment SharonZ — August 25, 2006 @ 3:34 pm
The powerpoints are going to have to wait until next week. They are really big and keep timing out. My husband will take them, loaded on the sweet memory stick, compliments of NIAA, to the office with him where they have dsl.
Comment SharonZ — August 25, 2006 @ 7:24 pm
Here is a web page index of the information from the NIAA conference.
Comment walterj — August 25, 2006 @ 7:55 pm
RE:COMMENT #18 ABOUT CONTACTING BUSINESSES I have found old fashioned phone calls (use those 800 numbers) works best…I ask to talk to customer service but a few times have lucked out and talked with those in charge like presidents or founders or owners of the company. Keep calling as you never know who you will be able to talk to from time to time in the same company. The more who find out their jobs, benefits and retirement may be in jeopardy the more we will have on our side. That is one of the main strategies is alerting those who will lose their bread and butter and retirements and benefits because of the trickle down effect of not owning animals.
Comment SUSAN — August 26, 2006 @ 2:22 am
Started reading them.
first one was the poulty.ppt
In their own words it’s going to be a significant increase in cost.
On to the horses
Nuchal ligament…If memory serves me this is the ligament that raises and lowers a horses head. It’s the reason cattle trucks are not safe to transport horses in. It’s the proplem with horses in the kill box at the slaughter house and why the captive bolt doesn’t work well with them.
So what happens when the chip migrates and interfers with the ligament??
So is that the right ligament? I can see all sorts of scarey problems.
Comment Sue F — August 26, 2006 @ 7:23 am
A local library just had a training session over the telephone for the main library worker re the county library system’s new referenceusa.com, which enables the library workers or patrons to locate the names of specific company executives like CEO, head of public relations, etc. It also lets you search by zip code, region, company size, etc.
Not much privacy anymore, as it often gives home addresses, phone numbers, company subsidiary locations and executives, etc.
It seems more effective than Google, and lets you do a lot more than I have mentioned.
This might be useful too in contacting businesses.
Comment Tasha Kollor — August 26, 2006 @ 7:26 pm
About migrating chips:
The woman from the camelid working group noted with some amusement that someone had found, upon a scan, that a llama had 4 chips in her. If memory serves me right, the llama had had 4 owners who all inserted chips. When a scan was done, the 4 chips were found.
This same presenter was also heard to say that she would love mitochondrial dna tracking.
Like Sue F., I hope every single one of you are going over the NIAA files and learning what they really mean to do. Knowledge is power! Learn and then go spread the word: The USDA means to chip every livestock animal in this country.
Comment SharonZ — August 27, 2006 @ 7:13 am
#27, Sue F:
If the ADSX/Digital Angel rice chips are used, you will find they are coated with a special polymer that adheres to human flesh. Of that I am certain. They were promoting this anti migration aspect as a feature a few years ago. I am not positive but it stands to reason they have worked that out for animal flesh as well, as livestock management likely will continue to be a significant piece of their business model.
respects, Wm
Comment Mr Dirty Nails — August 27, 2006 @ 10:00 pm
LISTS, MAKE LISTS
That’s what I heard a fella say was the key element of what he told folks who wanted his assistance in their property rights battles of all kinds.
Lists of details.
Narrow Lists, like Naughty and Nice, but specific to narrow aspects of NAIS.
Lists can be added to.
Lists for distribution.
Like the murdered brother in the movie The Interpreter, who kept all sorts of oddity lists.
Just a thought I’m going to try to better utilize.
respects, Wm
Comment Mr Dirty Nails — August 27, 2006 @ 10:14 pm
To Mr. Weimers,
In response to your comment that “We will ride every road and find every animal”:
I hope that you personally lead the brown shirts to my farm. I will greet you at the gate and it will be QUITE obvious that I have not complied and will not comply.
You, nor, the brown shirts are welcome on my private property. I don’t think you have the guts to step on MY private property.
I am writing here because I know you read this website. Fair warning to you sir.
Comment catfish — August 28, 2006 @ 6:36 pm
More surfing uncovered this: “Industry Speaks Out on National Animal Identification”, dated August 24,2006. I did not see this article listed in the link above, but if it is there, maybe it is still useful. The article states:
“U. S. Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns, who gave the key note address at the meeting, stressed the program will remain voluntary under his watch.”
I guess that would be true, since he may not be in that position after 2008, or he could retire. Newspeak/ doublespeak.
link
Comment Texas Goat Gal — September 5, 2006 @ 10:16 am
Walter, the above link, #33, did not work, so I will give it again. Probably my fault. I don’t understand why when I type in a web address, and start with: link
[I checked your link and it worked for me. What it did was download a doc file (MS-Word / Apple TextEdit format). Look on your desktop or in your downloads folder for “niaa-survey-release.doc”. -WJ]
Comment Texas Goat Gal — September 5, 2006 @ 4:45 pm
I am glad that I found this information thanks to one of the horse lists I belong to. I have been opposed of this since I first heard rumor of it. I have been trying to spread the word to everyone I know that might be affected. 98% of them havent even heard about it. Reading Sharons notes is creepy. I knew it was going to be like that. Fighting is definitely something we should all be doing…..once the animals are done and our “war on terrorism” doesnt cede - who do you think will be chipped next? Us. Some may scoff at that idea - but look at what they are doing now to our animals. Its a sham. I just read in our paper here about the new drivers licenses we are all goign to be demanded to get. Cost is 100.00 and if you dont have a new one you wont be allowed on air planes, buses, etc. I would like to be very involved - if there is anything I can do to help please let me know.
[The big thing is to spread the word. Tell everyone you can, hang posters, pass out handouts, put posters in your car windows and a bumper sticker on your cars, write letters to the editor, write your legislators, etc. In my signature below you’ll find some files you can download to print. Also see the Sample Flyers section of the right sidebar on http://NoNAIS.org on the web. -WJ]
Comment Hiedi — September 7, 2006 @ 2:47 pm
Today I was searching for a livestock tag company that does not manufacture RFIDs. I always bought Allflex at the local feed store, but that party is over. I hope to find a source that is not going to sell RFID tags by ANY manufacturer. Hope such an honorable outfit exists. Anyway, I visited the NIAA’s website for their membership list to see which manufacturers I would avoid, and I see that R-CALF USA is a member now. I last printed off the entire membership list on 3/20/2006, and R-CALF was not a member at that time. I have that old membership list in one of my many thick notebooks - the one marked “Rolling Over and Playing Dead”. I know there are R-CALF members out there. What’s up?
link
Comment Texas Goat Gal — September 4, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
OK, maybe I’m paranoid. I just went back to NIAA’s website, animalagriculture.org, and, only after maybe an hour since I was there last, I got the message, “You are not authorized to view this page”. I tried several times, and could bring it up if I clicked “cached”, but then I could not move around on the site. Just an hour plus ago I got on their page by just Googling “NIAA”. Maybe they are down for service, but it is strange.
Comment Texas Goat Gal — September 4, 2007 @ 5:34 pm
Texas Goat Gal…I am pretty sure RCALF joined NIAA to they could have a foot in the door to fight NAIS and ensure COOL. They are against NAIS, that is for sure.
Comment Henwhisperer — September 5, 2007 @ 6:27 am
They are under construction. I had trouble yesterday myself. Next major meeting is next month-USAHA, in Reno.
Comment Celeste — September 5, 2007 @ 7:25 am
walter i dont seem to be getting your post at my e-mail. i have re entered my e-mail several times on your site .help if you can ,your frind nick
Comment nick — September 7, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
texas goat gal,you do a lot of good with your comments and all the hard work that you do putting things on walters web site,but you still seem to have a thing against r-calf.my question to you would be,where would we be (ME AND YOU} now if it had not been for R-CALF at the start? they were the the first to stand up and challenge the usda on nais,and they still in the fight.i would hate to think what it would be like now without them .your friend nick
Comment nick — September 7, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
Nick, I appreciate your question to me, and I will try to explain my position. Yes, I have been suspicious of R-Calf for a long time, because of my past research of the New World Order, and the many organizations that seem on the surface to be genuine, but have an agenda that is not what its members or supporters think. Our country is full of organizations that look and sound good, but are really there to mislead people. We found out months ago that because some people say they are against a mandatory NAIS does not mean that they are against a “voluntary” NAIS, which we all know is dangerous business.
I do not have anything concrete about R-Calf that they are an organization that cannot be trusted. I just have a natural suspicion regarding all organizations, and I watch and see what happens. They seem to be more hard-nosed against NAIS now than they were earlier. The test will be to see what R-Calf has to say about “voluntary” NAIS legislation. If they stand firm and say that “voluntary” is unacceptable, then I may be wrong about any suspicions I have. I have made a point not to join large organizations over the last fifteen years, since I have been awake, because deep research often uncovers other agendas. Also, I don’t think it is a bad thing for organizations to know we are watching them to make sure they are true and honest.
I hope we are friends and that you can understand my suspicion of things, since we are and have been constantly deceived by government, etc.
Thanks for your good thoughts. I am watching and waiting.
Comment Texas Goat Gal — September 8, 2007 @ 9:25 pm