Comments on: Chipping Patients http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/ Protect our traditional rights to farm Thu, 17 May 2012 03:08:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Snazy snezy http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-971709 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:36:39 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-971709 The kids going to the local school could not answer your challenge question. I tested 10 kids in the neighborhood and NONE could subtract!! For Home schooling Check out www.Robinson curriculum.com at the time we purchased it the cost was $200 for all 12 grades. Dr Robinson developed it in desperation after his wife died suddenly. It is self-taught. His eldest tested out of the first 2 years of college! Some of the churches in my area have “home schooling” clubs this helps parents who have to work but want to home school. I have stamped on the back of my business card “nonais.com” I hand out my cards to people in the supermarket, gas station....and tell them a little about NAIS and to google the site on the back of my card.. Most are horrified. COMMUNISM ~~ the government owns the means and method of production. FASCISM the government controls the means and method of production. The kids going to the local school could not answer your challenge question. I tested 10 kids in the neighborhood and NONE could subtract!!

For Home schooling Check out www.Robinson curriculum.com at the time we purchased it the cost was $200 for all 12 grades. Dr Robinson developed it in desperation after his wife died suddenly. It is self-taught. His eldest tested out of the first 2 years of college! Some of the churches in my area have “home schooling” clubs this helps parents who have to work but want to home school.

I have stamped on the back of my business card “nonais.com” I hand out my cards to people in the supermarket, gas station….and tell them a little about NAIS and to google the site on the back of my card.. Most are horrified.

COMMUNISM ~~ the government owns the means and method of production. FASCISM the government controls the means and method of production.

]]> by: nick http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-967421 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:05:05 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-967421 good idea. good idea.

]]> by: Connie http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-964919 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:30:54 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-964919 Hey you all.....For all of you who value this wonderful website, let me suggest that each of you place an ad in your local newspapers classifieds, perhaps in differnet sections...such as jobs, for sale, pets, ect. God tells us in His word that " My people perish for Lack of Knowledge". So lets get out there and make this website known.....God bless the USA. www.nonais.org Hey you all…..For all of you who value this wonderful website, let me suggest that each of you place an ad in your local newspapers classifieds, perhaps in differnet sections…such as jobs, for sale, pets, ect. God tells us in His word that ” My people perish for Lack of Knowledge”. So lets get out there and make this website known…..God bless the USA.
www.nonais.org

]]> by: John Ginart http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-6103 Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:19:16 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-6103 Nais, chipping the homeless or the chronic hospital patients is only the tip of the iceberg. The truth is that the gov't is planning to chip us all. If you don't,you stand to lose everything. The idea is to go to a cashless society where every transaction exacts a tax. You will need to be chipped to pay your property taxes or lose your land. Even more sinister and Orwellian is the fact that you can be tracked wherever you go in proximity to a scanner. Around spring of 2005 there was a segment on The Today Show where Matt Lahrer was interviewing a spokesperson for one of the chip manufacturers touting how great it would be for tracking medical records. He quickly glossed over offhandedly how it can be used to tie into personal and financial records. Katie Couric did a spot for NBC's "the more you know" public service messages (8pmEST) touting we should chip our children to keep them safe from human predators. The only way that could happen is if it has GPS ability. Average folks don't want to talk about it. Do a search for the Verichip Corp. in Florida. I believe that is the company being interviewed. Their subsidiary is the Angelchip. Corp. which does the animal chipping. When all this comes into play even dissidents will be rounded up with the chip if it can be tracked by GPS. Interesting that this program (NAIS)is being put in under the Patriot Act's Homeland Security. Although the future looks bleak on this subject, we must do everything we can to stop it. Two Crows Nais, chipping the homeless or the chronic hospital patients is only the tip of the iceberg. The truth is that the gov’t is planning to chip us all. If you don’t,you stand to lose everything. The idea is to go to a cashless society where every transaction exacts a tax. You will need to be chipped to pay your property taxes or lose your land. Even more sinister and Orwellian is the fact that you can be tracked wherever you go in proximity to a scanner.
Around spring of 2005 there was a segment on The Today Show where Matt Lahrer was interviewing a spokesperson for one of the chip manufacturers touting how great it would be for tracking medical records. He quickly glossed over offhandedly how it can be used to tie into personal and financial records. Katie Couric did a spot for NBC’s “the more you know” public service messages (8pmEST) touting we should chip our children to keep them safe from human predators. The only way that could happen is if it has GPS ability. Average folks don’t want to talk about it.
Do a search for the Verichip Corp. in Florida. I believe that is the company being interviewed. Their subsidiary is the Angelchip. Corp. which does the animal chipping.
When all this comes into play even dissidents will be rounded up with the chip if it can be tracked by GPS. Interesting that this program (NAIS)is being put in under the Patriot Act’s Homeland Security.
Although the future looks bleak on this subject, we must do everything we can to stop it.
Two Crows

]]> by: Rene http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-5482 Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:59:28 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-5482 What we have to recognize and spread info about quickly is the fact that "voluntary" only remains voluntary if govt. owned facilities and institutions and corporations are legally PREVENTED from requiring the system. Otherwise, its indirectly mandatory. The notion of a system being voluntary is a real scam when every bank, hospital, insurance company,and employer requires the system. That "Indirectly Madndatory" system has suddenly shifted the laws and governmental rule to that of businesses. I didn't elect any of those business owners to tell our country what to do. They sure as hell aren't helping the people and providing systems of help or aid for people, why would we sit idley by while businesses switch over to the "governing body" of the USA? The businesses who start running the country ought to be nervous about a revolt, plus a total boycot of their product(s) in America. I say that every company that attempts to provide VIP service as incenitve for participating in an RFID system, or requires any element of NAIS for any members,to get raked through the coals before the country's eyes. Those companies are not in charge of us. Our govt needs to be told to step up to this problem, and squash it instead of using it as a tool. WE all have the right to boycot products and services of the companies who decide to require anything along the lines of RFID. That is the power we have. REfuse to buy anything associated with Cargill, Monsanto, etc. Hold rallies declaring boycots. WE ARE capable of doing that. When Americans decide to altogether boycot factory farm products and buy from small local farmers, the market will switch back to all of us being in the seat of power. WE need to rally and say, "Go for it- all you companies that are acting like the new govt- and we'll parade the day your business closes its doors because we the people refuse to buy your crap!" INDIRECLT MANDATORY does not have to work against us. Indirectly Mandatory needs to be reveered as a swear word, and how dare any hospital or company attempt to make that a requirement. Companies who attempt to do this garbage should be boycotted permanently, and that message needs to be sent out loud and clear! We are totally in control here when it comes to "indirectly mandatory". We give our only power away when we continue to buy their products or services. Hey, I won't go to any hospital that requires that garbage, and remember, when nobody else goes either, they will HAVE to change that policy! There are other hospitals out there, heck, even if the people have to go to India for the better health care and doctors, then SO BE IT. The message here is that there are other insurance companies, there are other seed companies, there are other hospitals. Together, the flat our refusal of their requirements is what will dictate how we are treated in this country. In the meantime, "America....From Freedom to Facism" is going to hit theaters Nationwide on July 28th. I really think that once national audiences see that govt. documentary, we will have a very easy time of firing the crappy officials doing harm to the Copnstitution. The documentary is downright jawdropping. Go see it and tell everyone you know to go see it too. The info website about it is www.FreedomtoFacism.com, or you can read more about it at www.GiveMeLiberty.org HElp is on the way with this film for sure. I saw it in MArch and its utterly absolutely unbelievable and the country will be different afterward- guaranteed! What we have to recognize and spread info about quickly is the fact that “voluntary” only remains voluntary if govt. owned facilities and institutions and corporations are legally PREVENTED from requiring the system. Otherwise, its indirectly mandatory. The notion of a system being voluntary is a real scam when every bank, hospital, insurance company,and employer requires the system. That “Indirectly Madndatory” system has suddenly shifted the laws and governmental rule to that of businesses. I didn’t elect any of those business owners to tell our country what to do. They sure as hell aren’t helping the people and providing systems of help or aid for people, why would we sit idley by while businesses switch over to the “governing body” of the USA? The businesses who start running the country ought to be nervous about a revolt, plus a total boycot of their product(s) in America. I say that every company that attempts to provide VIP service as incenitve for participating in an RFID system, or requires any element of NAIS for any members,to get raked through the coals before the country’s eyes. Those companies are not in charge of us. Our govt needs to be told to step up to this problem, and squash it instead of using it as a tool. WE all have the right to boycot products and services of the companies who decide to require anything along the lines of RFID. That is the power we have. REfuse to buy anything associated with Cargill, Monsanto, etc. Hold rallies declaring boycots. WE ARE capable of doing that. When Americans decide to altogether boycot factory farm products and buy from small local farmers, the market will switch back to all of us being in the seat of power. WE need to rally and say, “Go for it- all you companies that are acting like the new govt- and we’ll parade the day your business closes its doors because we the people refuse to buy your crap!”
INDIRECLT MANDATORY does not have to work against us. Indirectly Mandatory needs to be reveered as a swear word, and how dare any hospital or company attempt to make that a requirement. Companies who attempt to do this garbage should be boycotted permanently, and that message needs to be sent out loud and clear! We are totally in control here when it comes to “indirectly mandatory”. We give our only power away when we continue to buy their products or services. Hey, I won’t go to any hospital that requires that garbage, and remember, when nobody else goes either, they will HAVE to change that policy! There are other hospitals out there, heck, even if the people have to go to India for the better health care and doctors, then SO BE IT. The message here is that there are other insurance companies, there are other seed companies, there are other hospitals. Together, the flat our refusal of their requirements is what will dictate how we are treated in this country. In the meantime, “America….From Freedom to Facism” is going to hit theaters Nationwide on July 28th. I really think that once national audiences see that govt. documentary, we will have a very easy time of firing the crappy officials doing harm to the Copnstitution. The documentary is downright jawdropping. Go see it and tell everyone you know to go see it too. The info website about it is www.FreedomtoFacism.com, or you can read more about it at www.GiveMeLiberty.org HElp is on the way with this film for sure. I saw it in MArch and its utterly absolutely unbelievable and the country will be different afterward- guaranteed!

]]> by: Monte Waldron http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-5394 Sat, 22 Jul 2006 01:55:05 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-5394 OK FOLKS check this out www.TagZapper.com OK FOLKS check this out www.TagZapper.com

]]> by: Podchef http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-5391 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 23:25:55 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-5391 FEMA--Facist Edict Mandate Association FEMA–Facist Edict Mandate Association

]]> by: Barbara http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-5390 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:32:25 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-5390 "FEMA tried to tell me I lived in a flood zone once." I fought that battle also. Some fool made a flood map with no basis in reality. It showed the flood plain hanging a right hand turn at an intersection that is all the same elevation. I eventually had to pay an engineer to certify that my house was above the flood plain. “FEMA tried to tell me I lived in a flood zone once.”

I fought that battle also. Some fool made a flood map with no basis in reality. It showed the flood plain hanging a right hand turn at an intersection that is all the same elevation. I eventually had to pay an engineer to certify that my house was above the flood plain.

]]> by: Barbara http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-5389 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:26:13 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-5389 "we are the prophets and the liberals are the ostriches.." Excuse me............ What makes you think NAIS is liberals vs conservatives? The administration that is pushing this mess is one of the most conservative ones we've had. As I see it, people of all ethnicities, religions and politics are lined up against this. NAIS is more about government/corporations vs farmers/private landholders and indirectly the general public. The ostriches are the people that just can't believe the US would do this. <i>[Yes! Please everyone, remember that it was the liberal Democrat Senator Leahy from Vermont (Realize I'm from Vermont so I'm gagging on this...) and the conservative Republican Senator Spector from Pennsylvania who had a hand in starting much of what we are fighting now. There are legislators from both sides of the isle that are Pro-NAIS and that are Anti-NAIS. NAIS is a bipartisan bad idea. Look beyond the politics, follow the money and smell the greed. -WJ]</i> “we are the prophets and the liberals are the ostriches..”

Excuse me………… What makes you think NAIS is liberals vs conservatives? The administration that is pushing this mess is one of the most conservative ones we’ve had. As I see it, people of all ethnicities, religions and politics are lined up against this. NAIS is more about government/corporations vs farmers/private landholders and indirectly the general public.
The ostriches are the people that just can’t believe the US would do this.

[Yes! Please everyone, remember that it was the liberal Democrat Senator Leahy from Vermont (Realize I’m from Vermont so I’m gagging on this…) and the conservative Republican Senator Spector from Pennsylvania who had a hand in starting much of what we are fighting now. There are legislators from both sides of the isle that are Pro-NAIS and that are Anti-NAIS. NAIS is a bipartisan bad idea. Look beyond the politics, follow the money and smell the greed. -WJ]

]]> by: Podchef http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-5384 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:22:16 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/07/19/chipping-patients/#comment-5384 Irene, I hear what you are saying. Lee--thanks for saying I was right, about something (at least someone thinks so. . . :-) I have lived and travelled all over the States and the World. There are many countries I would rather live than the US. Places where people understand food and farming better than here, where the quality of life and pace more match the life I want to lead. Believe me when I say I contemplate daily living in some other country where our style of life is celebrated rather than marginalized. Yet Lee is right (my turn to return the favor) many of those places would shut me down if I spoke critically of the government like I do here. Many of the freedoms I take for granted don't exist in those places. As much as I dislike the state of this Country, I fear I would do myself and others an injury if I were to tackle the beauraucracy overseas. I think it is obnoxious that we have to even think about something like the NAIS, or One World Order, or microchipping hospital patients. We can fight it. We can win. FEMA tried to tell me I lived in a flood zone once. I live on an island. While there are streams which swell in the spring there is no way in the world the island can flood--every piece of land slopes to the sea. And since FEMA isn't insisting on Global Warming Insurance (damn, there I go giving the Sods an idea. . .) Water damage is not really an issue here. Yet they insisted I needed to cough up a lot of money to protect me--or them, rather--from the inevitable flooding. I got on the phone and made calls and calls and calls and got through to departments I shouldn't have. People were told not to speak to me, one gal was fired for her part in the matter. I got FEMA to change my property's designation and have not been further bothered. I also got a free washing machine because I proved the factory built a defective machine and any company whose motto was, "Built to Last" should at least make a machine which lasted more than 2 years and should not charge me more than the washer was worth for a new one. I paid $1200 for it. If its supposed to last 20 years "no problem" then I only got $120 of use from it. I told them to give me a credit on my purchase and I'd go buy another machine. 5 months of doing laundry at the 'mat and several calls overseas to the president of the company I owned a new washing machine for nothing. 40 years ago my father had to fight zoning on his land which tried to charge him extra money on a vacant lot--the county maintained that another house could be built there. He had an architect design the house which would comply with all the zoning codes for that piece of property. It was triangular and had stilts. It broke every building code on record for that town. He didn't have to pay any extra taxes. The point is--we can change things. Persistence and logic can win. Beauracracy is self-limiting. It can only get so big before collapsing in on itself. I think we are at this bursting point now. And as the cost of living increases, and interest rates climb and fuel costs soar the bubble will burst. The tide will change and perhaps the great people of this country can regain control of it once again. They might be able to shut me up, perhaps you, but can "they" shut us all up? Not a chance. Keep shouting from the mountain tops, every tower, down every hall. Common sense and logic, ie Truth, will carry the day. Citizen Podchef, out. Irene, I hear what you are saying. Lee–thanks for saying I was right, about something (at least someone thinks so. . . :-)

I have lived and travelled all over the States and the World. There are many countries I would rather live than the US. Places where people understand food and farming better than here, where the quality of life and pace more match the life I want to lead.
Believe me when I say I contemplate daily living in some other country where our style of life is celebrated rather than marginalized. Yet Lee is right (my turn to return the favor) many of those places would shut me down if I spoke critically of the government like I do here. Many of the freedoms I take for granted don’t exist in those places. As much as I dislike the state of this Country, I fear I would do myself and others an injury if I were to tackle the beauraucracy overseas.

I think it is obnoxious that we have to even think about something like the NAIS, or One World Order, or microchipping hospital patients. We can fight it. We can win.

FEMA tried to tell me I lived in a flood zone once. I live on an island. While there are streams which swell in the spring there is no way in the world the island can flood–every piece of land slopes to the sea. And since FEMA isn’t insisting on Global Warming Insurance (damn, there I go giving the Sods an idea. . .) Water damage is not really an issue here. Yet they insisted I needed to cough up a lot of money to protect me–or them, rather–from the inevitable flooding. I got on the phone and made calls and calls and calls and got through to departments I shouldn’t have. People were told not to speak to me, one gal was fired for her part in the matter. I got FEMA to change my property’s designation and have not been further bothered.

I also got a free washing machine because I proved the factory built a defective machine and any company whose motto was, “Built to Last” should at least make a machine which lasted more than 2 years and should not charge me more than the washer was worth for a new one. I paid $1200 for it. If its supposed to last 20 years “no problem” then I only got $120 of use from it. I told them to give me a credit on my purchase and I’d go buy another machine. 5 months of doing laundry at the ‘mat and several calls overseas to the president of the company I owned a new washing machine for nothing.

40 years ago my father had to fight zoning on his land which tried to charge him extra money on a vacant lot–the county maintained that another house could be built there. He had an architect design the house which would comply with all the zoning codes for that piece of property. It was triangular and had stilts. It broke every building code on record for that town. He didn’t have to pay any extra taxes.

The point is–we can change things. Persistence and logic can win. Beauracracy is self-limiting. It can only get so big before collapsing in on itself. I think we are at this bursting point now. And as the cost of living increases, and interest rates climb and fuel costs soar the bubble will burst. The tide will change and perhaps the great people of this country can regain control of it once again. They might be able to shut me up, perhaps you, but can “they” shut us all up? Not a chance. Keep shouting from the mountain tops, every tower, down every hall. Common sense and logic, ie Truth, will carry the day.

Citizen Podchef, out.

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