Comments on: New USDA Guide for the Small http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/ Protect our traditional rights to farm Thu, 17 May 2012 02:58:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Edward Joanason http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-1379773 Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:30:56 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-1379773 Dont get suckered in by the government guides. They just want to placate and pascify. Sheeple everywhere. Dont get suckered in by the government guides. They just want to placate and pascify. Sheeple everywhere.

]]> by: Maurice http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-8175 Sat, 16 Sep 2006 08:56:51 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-8175 Here i have a messege for you folks from the land down under and by that i mean Australia where we have something like your NAIS for our cattle. Dont! Dont let them do this to you. It is a disaster here. We are having major problems with our system. Ranchers are getting ****ed over by the government and put out of busness and the system has filled up with nonexistant animal records and the buyers are using the sysstem to cheet the ranchers. It is bad bad bad! Dont let them do this to you in your country. Here i have a messege for you folks from the land down under and by that i mean Australia where we have something like your NAIS for our cattle. Dont! Dont let them do this to you. It is a disaster here. We are having major problems with our system. Ranchers are getting ****ed over by the government and put out of busness and the system has filled up with nonexistant animal records and the buyers are using the sysstem to cheet the ranchers. It is bad bad bad! Dont let them do this to you in your country.

]]> by: Lynn http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-5422 Sat, 22 Jul 2006 19:08:41 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-5422 Hmmm ... didn't get that link quite right, but here's the way it should be - <a href="http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_process/acf001.htm" rel="nofollow">Delphi</a> Check it out. We need all the help we can get. Hmmm … didn’t get that link quite right, but here’s the way it should be - Delphi

Check it out. We need all the help we can get.

]]> by: Lynn http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-5421 Sat, 22 Jul 2006 19:07:08 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-5421 It is obviously sugar coating for the pill - and the reason that they keep saying 'disease control' over and over and over again is that if you repeat a lie often enough and loudly enough, you will eventually prevail. It is obvious to anyone who thinks about this even a little bit that RFID can have no impact on disease control whatever. Going to a meeting to fight this stuff? Do you really want your questions answered, and make your points? <a href="http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_process/acf001.htm" rel="nofollow">LinkText</a> gives you some insight into the way this stuff is crammed down people's throats, and some info which will help you fight. Forewarned is forearmed ... It is obviously sugar coating for the pill - and the reason that they keep saying ‘disease control’ over and over and over again is that if you repeat a lie often enough and loudly enough, you will eventually prevail. It is obvious to anyone who thinks about this even a little bit that RFID can have no impact on disease control whatever.

Going to a meeting to fight this stuff? Do you really want your questions answered, and make your points?

LinkText gives you some insight into the way this stuff is crammed down people’s throats, and some info which will help you fight.

Forewarned is forearmed …

]]> by: Greg Lilley http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-4060 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:55:06 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-4060 The following link from the Weston A. Price Foundation contains the best critique of the USDA "NAIS Guidance for Small-Scale Farmers and Ranchers" document that I've seen to date. <a href="http://www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/aa2006/infoalert_09jun06.html">link</a> - Greg Lilley The following link from the Weston A. Price Foundation contains the best critique of the USDA “NAIS Guidance for Small-Scale Farmers and Ranchers” document that I’ve seen to date.

link

- Greg Lilley

]]> by: rooster-lover http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-4028 Sun, 11 Jun 2006 17:52:42 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-4028 "Will you walk into my parlor, said the spider to the fly...." Don't take the bait, folks. This says you won't have to report movements if you show animals at the local fairs &#38; 4-H. Funny, I seem to recall being told by a Univesity of MN edu person at a meeting in Milaca, MN last month that, since 4H is under USDA, it will be mandatory to register. And what happens if you win and go on to State or National level? Then you have to register and report? Better not raise a champion anymore. And if, as this says, private swaps of birds are not reported, does that mean I can swap a bird at a fair? Or is that commercial? What if I met the owner at the fair but we swapped our chickens at the side of the road outside the fairgrounds? Is that private? Also, this whole was VERY repetitious -- almost as if they were trying to fill it out to make it seem longer and more impressive. How many times do they have to say, over and over, that this is for disease control, yada yada, yada. Once is enough... And NOWHERE in this brochure does it even MENTION the goal of having 100% mandatory participation by 2008 (or is it 2009? I keep seeing both dates...) I will not believe it is voluntary until I see that stated as a PERMANENT part of the program -- not of this "at this time" crap. “Will you walk into my parlor, said the spider to the fly….” Don’t take the bait, folks. This says you won’t have to report movements if you show animals at the local fairs & 4-H. Funny, I seem to recall being told by a Univesity of MN edu person at a meeting in Milaca, MN last month that, since 4H is under USDA, it will be mandatory to register. And what happens if you win and go on to State or National level? Then you have to register and report? Better not raise a champion anymore.

And if, as this says, private swaps of birds are not reported, does that mean I can swap a bird at a fair? Or is that commercial? What if I met the owner at the fair but we swapped our chickens at the side of the road outside the fairgrounds? Is that private?

Also, this whole was VERY repetitious — almost as if they were trying to fill it out to make it seem longer and more impressive. How many times do they have to say, over and over, that this is for disease control, yada yada, yada. Once is enough… And NOWHERE in this brochure does it even MENTION the goal of having 100% mandatory participation by 2008 (or is it 2009? I keep seeing both dates…) I will not believe it is voluntary until I see that stated as a PERMANENT part of the program — not of this “at this time” crap.

]]> by: Jolly Sapper http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-4013 Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:16:52 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-4013 Dont forget in the race to cut costs and increase profitability the "private" contractors might very well have really poor secruity to begin with. Nowhere in any of the government NAIS documentation are there any referrences to any act or legislation meant to enforce proper security of information or what would happen to the "private" contractors if their security were to be breached or they were to have a leak of this collected information. As far as security goes, anything connected to the internet no matter how techologically advanced or diligently guarded is open for attack. Having a requirement to have wireless readers to send information to the databases is also an even bigger security weakness. Anybody with a wireless internet connection who lives next to a heard of cattle could use a RF scanner to pick up information being sent back and forth between the reader and the RFID chips. Then its just a matter of time and inclination before something happens. Dont forget in the race to cut costs and increase profitability the “private” contractors might very well have really poor secruity to begin with. Nowhere in any of the government NAIS documentation are there any referrences to any act or legislation meant to enforce proper security of information or what would happen to the “private” contractors if their security were to be breached or they were to have a leak of this collected information.

As far as security goes, anything connected to the internet no matter how techologically advanced or diligently guarded is open for attack. Having a requirement to have wireless readers to send information to the databases is also an even bigger security weakness. Anybody with a wireless internet connection who lives next to a heard of cattle could use a RF scanner to pick up information being sent back and forth between the reader and the RFID chips. Then its just a matter of time and inclination before something happens.

]]> by: FarmerSid http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-4008 Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:33:53 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-4008 Ginny, they can't guarantee that any information in the databases is secure. You're right about the veterans' information, and just last night (June 9) on the news, there was another story about even more personal information stolen from yet another D.C. database! Folks, do we want to have our private, personal information out there for the same thing to happen yet again - as it surely will??!! As soon as the "Gov't" or the "tech world" comes up with a new and improved "SECURE" system, the hackers are already busy figuring out ways to crack it. DATABASES ARE NOT SECURE!!! Ginny, they can’t guarantee that any information in the databases is secure. You’re right about the veterans’ information, and just last night (June 9) on the news, there was another story about even more personal information stolen from yet another D.C. database! Folks, do we want to have our private, personal information out there for the same thing to happen yet again - as it surely will??!! As soon as the “Gov’t” or the “tech world” comes up with a new and improved “SECURE” system, the hackers are already busy figuring out ways to crack it. DATABASES ARE NOT SECURE!!!

]]> by: Ginny in TN http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-3981 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:12:09 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-3981 They're saying "the information concerning animal movement and location data will be held in multiple, secure databases managed by private organizations and state animal health authorities." Did any of you hear about the huge database of veterans' information that was just compromised on a stolen laptop computer? Hello? How can they guarantee that the database will be secure? They’re saying “the information concerning animal movement and location data will be held in multiple, secure databases managed by private organizations and state animal health authorities.” Did any of you hear about the huge database of veterans’ information that was just compromised on a stolen laptop computer? Hello? How can they guarantee that the database will be secure?

]]> by: George http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-3980 Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:32:59 +0000 http://NoNAIS.org/2006/06/05/new-usda-guide-for-the-small/#comment-3980 I think we need to vote out any congressmen who are not actively fighting NAIS. Would it be possible to start a list of replies that people have received? In Kentucky, Jim Bunning is in favor of NAIS so he has lost my vote. Mitch McConnell has expressed "interest" but has not made his postition known. Remember the USDA is the same organization that declared one teaspoon of ketchup constitutes a serving of vegetables with regard to school lunches I think we need to vote out any congressmen who are not actively fighting NAIS. Would it be possible to start a list of replies that people have received? In Kentucky, Jim Bunning is in favor of NAIS so he has lost my vote. Mitch McConnell has expressed “interest” but has not made his postition known.

Remember the USDA is the same organization that declared one teaspoon of ketchup constitutes a serving of vegetables with regard to school lunches

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