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	<title>Comments on: Factory Farms Ferment Flu</title>
	<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/</link>
	<description>Protect our traditional rights to farm</description>
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		<title>by: Texas Goat Gal</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-464043</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am sure many of you have seen this WND article, &quot;U.S. Under U.N. Law in Health Emergency&quot;:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57369&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;

The second paragraph will link you to the SPP agreement finalized this month in Canada.  

Also, a Reuters article, &quot;Study Confirms 2006 Human-Human Spread of Bird Flu&quot; comes on the heels of this agreement.  (I am not saying I believe this human-to-human transmission.)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=UKN2829220820070828&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;

It is obvious that the adepts are planning something soon.  I think they taunt us to see how few of us &quot;get it&quot;, even when things are right in front of our faces.  Glad to be in the company of folks who &quot;get it&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure many of you have seen this WND article, &#8220;U.S. Under U.N. Law in Health Emergency&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57369" rel="nofollow">link</a></p>
<p>The second paragraph will link you to the SPP agreement finalized this month in Canada.  </p>
<p>Also, a Reuters article, &#8220;Study Confirms 2006 Human-Human Spread of Bird Flu&#8221; comes on the heels of this agreement.  (I am not saying I believe this human-to-human transmission.)</p>
<p><a href="http://uk.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=UKN2829220820070828" rel="nofollow">link</a></p>
<p>It is obvious that the adepts are planning something soon.  I think they taunt us to see how few of us &#8220;get it&#8221;, even when things are right in front of our faces.  Glad to be in the company of folks who &#8220;get it&#8221;.
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		<title>by: Brenda Lee</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-4317</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I am a farmer who raises beef cattle, and free range chickens..and do horse barding..This whole ID program would kill us...I always thought the USDA was a good thing, but with all these new regulations they are trying to enforce it would distroy the family farms for sure..They are putting blinders on alot of people who are going along with their lies. We need to fight this to the end...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a farmer who raises beef cattle, and free range chickens..and do horse barding..This whole ID program would kill us&#8230;I always thought the USDA was a good thing, but with all these new regulations they are trying to enforce it would distroy the family farms for sure..They are putting blinders on alot of people who are going along with their lies. We need to fight this to the end&#8230;
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		<title>by: Irene</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-3609</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 03:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-3609</guid>
					<description>if this happens.... NAIS.....I will have to surrender my horses, i have a family, my family would be broken hearted if they came here and culled my animals, not only that, I can't afford being fined thousands of dollars for errors that may be from faulty chips or paperwork. NOt only that, all this chipping of animals is inhumane. If we kept our horses (3) we risk loosing the house. We simply can't.
The warrantless search and seizure is downright wrong, again i say, i have family, and surveillance? 
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT HAS WIPED OUT THE CONSTITUTION AND DECLARED WAR ON IT'S OWN PEOPLE?
I am considering leaving the country if i see any more legislation like this, there are still some european countries that have preserved thier agriculture. I'm not a farmer, but i have a way of life. Don't think that big pharma isn't behind this too, this bird flu scare, for every disease they create, they soak the taxpayer and generate billion dollar paychecks from the government. First NAIS, then US, then we will be lab rats. Not only that, I don't want GM crops, or the food they produce, i don't eat meat but the antibiotic and harmones all run off into the enviorment. This is sooo bad, I am terrified. 
We have to create a major effort to defeat Cargill and Monsanto, or they will be the death of us all.
Monsanto is worse than a nuclear bomb. Ashamed to be an American</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if this happens&#8230;. NAIS&#8230;..I will have to surrender my horses, i have a family, my family would be broken hearted if they came here and culled my animals, not only that, I can&#8217;t afford being fined thousands of dollars for errors that may be from faulty chips or paperwork. NOt only that, all this chipping of animals is inhumane. If we kept our horses (3) we risk loosing the house. We simply can&#8217;t.<br />
The warrantless search and seizure is downright wrong, again i say, i have family, and surveillance?<br />
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT HAS WIPED OUT THE CONSTITUTION AND DECLARED WAR ON IT&#8217;S OWN PEOPLE?<br />
I am considering leaving the country if i see any more legislation like this, there are still some european countries that have preserved thier agriculture. I&#8217;m not a farmer, but i have a way of life. Don&#8217;t think that big pharma isn&#8217;t behind this too, this bird flu scare, for every disease they create, they soak the taxpayer and generate billion dollar paychecks from the government. First NAIS, then US, then we will be lab rats. Not only that, I don&#8217;t want GM crops, or the food they produce, i don&#8217;t eat meat but the antibiotic and harmones all run off into the enviorment. This is sooo bad, I am terrified.<br />
We have to create a major effort to defeat Cargill and Monsanto, or they will be the death of us all.<br />
Monsanto is worse than a nuclear bomb. Ashamed to be an American
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		<title>by: Anita</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-2997</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 21:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-2997</guid>
					<description>This only backs up what we experience here in our area where we have lots of commercial chicken houses in operation. It's not the backyard free-range chickens that are getting sick - it's the commercial flocks that get sick and die. Here's a good example: this winter, a friend of our's told us what had just happened to him. He has free range chickens that he's owned for years, and the farm next to him has commercial chicken houses. Some of the commercial chickens got sick and started dying. The owner of those houses pointed his finger at our friend's chickens and said they were where the sickness was coming from. Before he knew it, our friend had all of his chickens taken from him by the government, killed and tested...and guess what. NOT A SINGLE ONE WAS SICK WITH ANYTHING. Yes, they were ALL HEALTHY. They died for nothing. But all it took was the COMMERCIAL guy pointing a finger with NO PROOF WHATSOEVER, and the backyard guy was automatically guilty. Our friend is very angry, needless to say. If it's already this bad, what will it be like if the NAIS gets put in?! Our own personal free range chickens hardly ever die - we've got some hens out there who are 7 years old and still laying! A chicken hawk was getting some of our chicks last year, but the adult chickens are pretty hardy. When we do lose them, it's usually due to old age. Really, really old age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This only backs up what we experience here in our area where we have lots of commercial chicken houses in operation. It&#8217;s not the backyard free-range chickens that are getting sick - it&#8217;s the commercial flocks that get sick and die. Here&#8217;s a good example: this winter, a friend of our&#8217;s told us what had just happened to him. He has free range chickens that he&#8217;s owned for years, and the farm next to him has commercial chicken houses. Some of the commercial chickens got sick and started dying. The owner of those houses pointed his finger at our friend&#8217;s chickens and said they were where the sickness was coming from. Before he knew it, our friend had all of his chickens taken from him by the government, killed and tested&#8230;and guess what. NOT A SINGLE ONE WAS SICK WITH ANYTHING. Yes, they were ALL HEALTHY. They died for nothing. But all it took was the COMMERCIAL guy pointing a finger with NO PROOF WHATSOEVER, and the backyard guy was automatically guilty. Our friend is very angry, needless to say. If it&#8217;s already this bad, what will it be like if the NAIS gets put in?! Our own personal free range chickens hardly ever die - we&#8217;ve got some hens out there who are 7 years old and still laying! A chicken hawk was getting some of our chicks last year, but the adult chickens are pretty hardy. When we do lose them, it&#8217;s usually due to old age. Really, really old age.
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		<title>by: sid sargent</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-2972</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 17:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-2972</guid>
					<description>sorry walter
it's a complement
without this website
i would be even crazier
than i already am
thanks brother'
sid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry walter<br />
it&#8217;s a complement<br />
without this website<br />
i would be even crazier<br />
than i already am<br />
thanks brother&#8217;<br />
sid
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		<title>by: sid sargent</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-2969</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 17:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-2969</guid>
					<description>Those who don’t, or who choose to ignore the value of our freedoms over all else, must be replaced with those who do.
thankyou paul horton
run for office
throw the bumbs out
walter is kept hopping
what's time to a pig????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who don’t, or who choose to ignore the value of our freedoms over all else, must be replaced with those who do.<br />
thankyou paul horton<br />
run for office<br />
throw the bumbs out<br />
walter is kept hopping<br />
what&#8217;s time to a pig????
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		<title>by: AE</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-2746</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 04:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-2746</guid>
					<description>Yup, poop, check out this report by an ortinthologist professor, about the spread of H5N1 and &quot;integrated fish farming&quot;. Yes, aqua culture. Evidently the FAO has been encouraging it in Asia.
Mar 06

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.birdlife.org/action/science/species/avian_flu/pdfs/fish_farming_review.pdf&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, poop, check out this report by an ortinthologist professor, about the spread of H5N1 and &#8220;integrated fish farming&#8221;. Yes, aqua culture. Evidently the FAO has been encouraging it in Asia.<br />
Mar 06</p>
<p><a href="http://www.birdlife.org/action/science/species/avian_flu/pdfs/fish_farming_review.pdf">link</a>
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		<title>by: walterj</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-2689</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 19:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-2689</guid>
					<description>PV,

Yes, that is essentially correct.

It is looking like the migratory birds are not the culprit. Rather it is the international trade in poultry products, including garden fertilizer and animal feed made from the manure of factory farm chickens which may be spreading Avian Flu.

That is the thinking of some people at this time. Nothing has been proved out clearly yet. They might be able to prove it using a DNA tracking, like a paternity test, on the virus found in the manures.

Tune in next year for more details.

Until then you may want to avoid fertilizer and other products that originated in factory farms, especially from factory farms in countries with Avian Influenza (H5N1) infections.

I have been inside factory farms and personally would avoid anything that came out of them...

Cheers,

-WalterJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PV,</p>
<p>Yes, that is essentially correct.</p>
<p>It is looking like the migratory birds are not the culprit. Rather it is the international trade in poultry products, including garden fertilizer and animal feed made from the manure of factory farm chickens which may be spreading Avian Flu.</p>
<p>That is the thinking of some people at this time. Nothing has been proved out clearly yet. They might be able to prove it using a DNA tracking, like a paternity test, on the virus found in the manures.</p>
<p>Tune in next year for more details.</p>
<p>Until then you may want to avoid fertilizer and other products that originated in factory farms, especially from factory farms in countries with Avian Influenza (H5N1) infections.</p>
<p>I have been inside factory farms and personally would avoid anything that came out of them&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-WalterJ
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		<title>by: PV</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-2642</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 18:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-2642</guid>
					<description>So if i under stand this all right the flue gets into the factory farms and then it turns into a bad form that is more dangorous and then the manure gets used on farms and sold in garden stores to gardenors who then put it on there gardens and they some how get the flue to from the infecuted chicken manure from the factory farms and then they get sick and that is mutating to a kind of virus that can be passed between people? Yuk!!!!! Is that fertilizor sold around here or is that just happenning in indonesia and china and places like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if i under stand this all right the flue gets into the factory farms and then it turns into a bad form that is more dangorous and then the manure gets used on farms and sold in garden stores to gardenors who then put it on there gardens and they some how get the flue to from the infecuted chicken manure from the factory farms and then they get sick and that is mutating to a kind of virus that can be passed between people? Yuk!!!!! Is that fertilizor sold around here or is that just happenning in indonesia and china and places like that?
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		<title>by: LEE</title>
		<link>http://NoNAIS.org/2006/05/19/factory-farms-ferment-flu/#comment-2600</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 14:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Paul,EXCELLENT! Well said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,EXCELLENT! Well said!
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