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There is a CT group against NAIS (link is on right sidebar).

You could also contact either Farm and Ranch Freedom Alliance or LibertyArk for more information.

Please let us all know what you find out.

Folks I think we are being flim flammed by the USDA/NASS (National Agricultural Statistic Service) Survey that they have been beating us over the head with and demanding numerous times this spring that we fill it out under penalty of law. I just went to their web site and looked around. Guess what? They only take this survey every five years, 1992, 1997, 2002, 2007 and then due again in the 2012 census year. They just took it last year so it is not due again for 4 more years! I wonder if the purpose of taking it again this year [2008] has anything to do with NAIS instead of NASS?

Here is what is on their web site. It does NOT say every year, it says every 5 years.

Frequently Asked Questions
What is the Census of Agriculture?

The Census of Agriculture, taken every five years, is a complete count of U.S. Farms and ranches and the people who operate them. The Census looks at land use and ownership, operator characteristics, production practices, income and expenditures and many other areas. For America’s farmers and ranchers, the Census of Agriculture is their voice, their future and their responsibility.

Noah

Post number 2

You may recall that on Sunday, May 11, 2008 (Yesterday) that I posted the following message wherein I pointed out that the NASS, according to their own rules and policies posted in public documents on the Internet, claim to only conduct their Agriculture Census Survey every five (5) years and 2007, NOT 2008, was the 5th. Year . In response to that message Mr. Gene Danekas, using the Internet e-mail address of Gene_Danekas@nass.usda.gov sent me privately the propaganda included herein below the broken RED lines. I find it very interesting that he spent his entire post trying to convince me that they only take the Agriculture Census Survey every five years AND why taking it early this year in 2008 was the correct thing to do. HOWEVER, he never said one word about why they conducted the same survey last year in 2007, the actual fifth [5TH.] year in their cycle! Folks, they can’t have it both ways, They can’t conduct the same survey TWO years in a row and then claim that it is only taken every FIVE years, either it is or it isn’t.

I am sure that this character enjoys lurking on our NO NAIS Discussion Lists but I don’t have any good feelings for a coward. If they want to bring their mole out of the woodwork to try to spread their propaganda the least he could have done was post his message in such a way that it would have been somewhat convincing. But notice how he “shaved” off the list headers so that no one could tell which list he is monitoring? And notice how he “trimmed” my original post to leave off the information that I posted from their web site about the USDA/NASS survey being conducted every five years?

Frankly, I am the last person that the USDA/NASS should be trying to convince with their propaganda. Noah

Response from Mr. Gene Danekas, Director USDA-NASS,

Mr Goddard,

I noted your comments regarding the Census of Agriculture causing folks to be ‘flim flammed’ into NAIS. Let me assure you, there is absolutely no connection between the Census of Agriculture and the NAIS. By law; no names, no data, nothing is shared with APHIS (or any other entity), the agency that is charged with the protection on our livestock from disease. Also, the Census IS conducted every 5 years, collecting data to determine the status of the industry and the food supply that is so urgently being followed worldwide. The Census of Agriculture studies the activities of agriculture during the 2007 calendar year, therefore the data collection effort is conducted during early 2008, after the completion of the calendar year in question. All data reported to USDA/NASS are used only to present the statistical picture of agriculture to the local (county) and state levels while NO individual reported data is ever published, released or decernable through the publish summaries.

I hope this short explanation is helpful.

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Folks I think we are being flim flammed by the USDA/NASS (National Agricultural Statistic Service) Survey that they have been beating us over the head with and demanding numerous time this spring that we fill it out under penalty of law. I just went to their web site and looked around. Guess what? They only take this survey every five years, 1992, 1997, 2002, 2007 and then due again in the 2012 census year. They just took it last year so it is not due again for 4 more years! I wonder if the purpose of taking it again this year [2008] has anything to do with NAIS instead of NASS?

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Gene Danekas, Director
USDA-NASS, Missouri Field Office
gene_danekas@nass.usda.gov

I tried to post a response to your concerns last night but it ended up somewhere other than here. It just disappeared.

Anyway, many of us are not filling out this inquiry into our personal lives.

The only census the US Constitution requires is the one taken every ten years. That US Census counts how many people live in a given state district in order for the House of Representatives to determine the correct number of elected representatives for a given number of people.

The US Census has not one thing to do with what sort of fish and how many one keeps in the backyard pond. It has nothing to do with how many rabbits - domestic or wild or how much money one makes by selling some fluff shaved off a humpless camel or indeed, how far said humpless camel can spit.

This is another means of ‘conditioning’ the general population to be obedient to bureaucratic edicts by bullying those they view as subject to their authority. The local bureaucrats are bullied by someone up the ladder from themselves who also have been conditioned to believe whatever they are told to do is proper procedure and according to law.

Someone posted a link to this paper awhile back. It is a good read and should ease your concerns:

censuslaw?

[See these articles for some discussion on this topic. -WJ]

If you get a survey phone call turn the tables and convert the grunt to our side. Many are small farmers or relatives of small farmers and have never heard our side.

from the wilds of NC

“All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent” — Thomas Jefferson